Marlins Trade Everyone to Toronto, Receive lifetime supply of Maple Syrup

[emkayseven]

I mean, I don't think he should be making a decision on it and I've said as much. But if he is it shouldn't involve "two independent baseball people"

[TheMendozaLine]

is D.Arnaud related to Coughlan?

You are THE worst. Even worse than the douche who kept calling Hanley, "Stanley"

[Beef]

He should certainly seek opinions - I don't know from who or how many

[emkayseven]

You are THE worst. Even worse than the douche who kept calling Hanley, "Stanley"

ok "TheMendozaLine"
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He ahold certainly seek opinions - I don't know from who or how many

from his massive legal team or baseball operations staff

[lou]

Even if they do think about vetoing it,Toronto could still throw in another prospect or 2 and make it even closer talent wise(Even tho the Reyes part will still be far superior still)

Both teams wanna make this happen and until MLB makes "rules" on trades,stuff like this will keep happening. The real problem is that we have done this plenty of times before,if Kansas City/Minnesota/Seattle would have done this if would be a team wants to rebuild and get younger

That argument, and the Astros dumping Wandy, Bretty Myers, Chris Johnson, etc, pisses me off. Minnesota didn't just trade Mauer, Morneau, Plouffe, Willingham, Span, and Perkins off the team with their new ballpark. The Astros players all suck. Bonifacio, the fourth asset, of the marlins trade is likely better than all of them. Kansas City and Seattle haven't done this, nor have the quantity of above average players with contracts to do this.

The Marlins have done this twice before in much more epic blowup fashion, more than any other franchise in the history of baseball, and after much grandstanding with a new stadium and rebranding and how everything is going to change, are trading a cornerstone SS, very valuable SP, and a useful Bonifacio, and dumping payroll to the $30 million range once Nolasco is jettisoned next. They were gonna be bottom 6-7 in payroll as is, now they will be the bottom and twice as low as the next closest team.

Its not even comparable to any other franchise "rebuilding." There is not faith with these clowns there is a plan and they will actually build a winner. They had good players. They were good and could have built around them with a mid range payroll.

There is just pocketing rev sharing and thanks for the stadium.

These guys are fucking clowns. There is nothing to compare this too.

I hope Selig shoves this down their fucking throats and begins the internal undermining campaign to get them to sell.

[emkayseven]

I mean, the trade would be getting "reviewed" because more than 1 million dollars is being exchanged. But anything more than normal is ridiculous and it sets a terrible precedent like I said before. Did he veto the Halladay for nobody trade? The Red Sox to Dodgers deal?

[Beef]

He's looking into trade from baseball perspective, those who have seen these guys play and evaluated them will be more helpful than legal team

[Party]

Selig has made a career of listening to or building a general consensus with the owners. Let's hope their lunch time shenanigans are just the tip of something larger.

[tjfla]

The Buehrle part was a salary dump, as well. That's why it was so nice to trade him...to dump his salary.

Take away the salary and Buehrle is worth more than this.

The whole trade is a salary dump. I don't mind it, personally, because they were mostly bad salaries, but it's a salary dump. And they should re-invest at least some of the money. If they don't, it's a joke.

The whole trade was? Are u kidding? JJ was dealt for exactly what they wanted for him/Boner and Escobar have the same salary/Buck made 6 mil and Mathis makes 1.5 mil.

If Toronto didn't send Henderson Alvarez,Buerhle would have stayed. U guys realize that Alvarez is a 22 yr old SP who has pitched the last 2 years in the majors right? He is not some 22 yr old who pitched in AA and came up for a start one time

The 2014 Rotation

?(Who knows)
Alvarez
Turner
Fernandez
?(Hand,Eovaldi,Koelher)

Reyes was the only part that was an acutally salary dump,the rest of it was excellent baseball value

[MiamiHomer]

I mean, the trade would be getting "reviewed" because more than 1 million dollars is being exchanged. But anything more than normal is ridiculous and it sets a terrible precedent like I said before. Did he veto the Halladay for nobody trade? The Red Sox to Dodgers deal?

None of the organizations have the sparkling reputation of Loria and company though. There's enough past information to bring up some strong questions about the Marlins motives.

[Beef]

lou has said clowns a whole bunch lately

[lou]

No, he doesn't.

How cheap could they possibly get? He's only making 5 million and they're not going to find a better 3B than him. They still have to put a team on the field, I would imagine.

What they should do now is probably trade/sign some guys to similar contracts like Escobar's to make the team look respectable at least.

A bunch of Escobars to get them to 65 wins instead of 58, sounds swell.

To answer the bold, they still have $16 million to shed with Nolasco and Escobar. They are around $43 right now with payments going out (Bell, Ozzie, $4 mil to toronto, etc), so they can get really close to $30 ditching most of Nolasco and Escobar. That's where I expect this is going.

Clear the decks, draw 1 million people, revenue sharing, profit

[emkayseven]

He's looking into trade from baseball perspective, those who have seen these guys play and evaluated them will be more helpful than legal team

It doesn't have jack to do with baseball though. If the ruling is whether or not it's a "fair" trade it is an awful track for baseball to embark on. Tim Hudson for Dan Meyer and Charles Thomas? Jermaine Dye for Keith Lockhart and Michael Tucker? AdGonz and Chris Young for Otsuka and Eaton? Aramis Ramirez for a few warm bodies? When you start ruling on if it's fair from a baseball perspective it creates a mess.

If there's a ruling it's on whether this is a pattern of destructive behavior or whether this will ruin the Miami market forever, not whether it's a "fair" video game trade.

[tjfla]

Actually Escobar will be staying for now at 3B,now if a team calls and offers stuff for him he could be dealt at the trade deadline

He has a cheap contract this year and the next 2 years are 5 mil/yr at at CLUB Option

[Jay]

I mean, the trade would be getting "reviewed" because more than 1 million dollars is being exchanged. But anything more than normal is ridiculous and it sets a terrible precedent like I said before. Did he veto the Halladay for nobody trade? The Red Sox to Dodgers deal?

How is ostracizing the whole south florida market good for baseball? I don't think he should veto the trade but it's extremely important to force them to sell the team for baseball.