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  • Originally posted by tjfla View Post

    We are in on a number of RP. They are looking at signing 2 and maybe a 3rd. They want atleast 1 CL type

    Talking to a number of LHB but price is to high right now. See Carlos Santana signing. Before anyone says they are cheap-remember they really only need the bat for this year

    Discussed few 3 or 4 for 1 trades but nothing serious

    Likely to grab a Rule 5 guy. Looking at C and RP-hard to say whom since no clue who will be around at 16
    There is no shortage of LH power bats on the market (Rosario, Mazara, Pederson, Schwarber)...even older guys like Jay Bruce, Gardner, and Daniel Murphy. Have to think someone will be available at our price.

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    • Originally posted by fauowls44 View Post

      There is no shortage of LH power bats on the market (Rosario, Mazara, Pederson, Schwarber)...even older guys like Jay Bruce, Gardner, and Daniel Murphy. Have to think someone will be available at our price.
      Exactly they are likely to get 1 just dont wanna pay 2/18(cant blame them). 2/12 is most and even then probably will be frontloaded like 1/8 and 2nd 4

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      • Would the Nationals consider parting with Victor Robles? Just a year or two ago, he was an ellite prospect. In his 2019 rookie year, he homered 17 times and stole 28 bases. Last season he struggled. Is it a buy low opportunity for the Marlins? Could they get a cornerstone CF for the next several years?

        With their veteran pitching staff, the Nationals figure to be in a go-for-it-now mode. Veterans Starling Marte and Jesus Aguilar would fill this year's CF and 1B spots in their lineup. Would those two plus an OF prospect or two be enough to steal away Robles? The Nats don't have a single OF among their top ten prospects. Perhaps Jesus Sanchez and Kam Misner would be intriguing to them.

        Additionally, it seems like an ideal time to scoop up uber-prospect but blocked second baseman Vidal Brujan from Tampa Bay. This would require the Marlins giving up an arm like Pablo Lopez or Elieser Hernandez and more, but a team with Jazz, Robles and Brujan could be absolutely electric up the middle,, both offensively and defensively.
        Last edited by Lee Stone; 12-10-2020, 08:25 AM.

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        • Originally posted by Lee Stone View Post
          Would the Nationals consider parting with Victor Robles? Just a year or two ago, he was an ellite prospect. In his 2019 rookie year, he homered 17 times and stole 28 bases. Last season he struggled. Is it a buy low opportunity for the Marlins? Could they get a cornerstone CF for the next several years?

          With their veteran pitching staff, the Nationals figure to be in a go-for-it-now mode. Veterans Starling Marte and Jesus Aguilar would fill this year's CF and 1B spots in their lineup. Would those two plus an OF prospect or two be enough to steal away Robles? The Nats don't have a single OF among their top ten prospects. Perhaps Jesus Sanchez and Kam Misner would be intriguing to them.

          Additionally, it seems like an ideal time to scoop up uber-prospect but blocked second baseman Vidal Brujan from Tampa Bay. This would require the Marlins giving up an arm like Pablo Lopez or Elieser Hernandez and more, but a team with Jazz, Robles and Brujan could be absolutely electric up the middle,, both offensively and defensively.
          Do you follow baseball?

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          • Erick, the board would be better-served by reading about your own thoughts on how to build a winner, rather than mere criticism of others. What's even the point of that?

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            • Originally posted by Lee Stone View Post
              Erick, the board would be better-served by reading about your own thoughts on how to build a winner, rather than mere criticism of others. What's even the point of that?
              What's the point of posting about Victor Robles? The Nationals would never do that.

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              • Originally posted by Erick View Post

                What's the point of posting about Victor Robles? The Nationals would never do that.
                Don't you believe that Robles' regression last season raises any doubt for the Nats? minus .6 WAR, .220 avg. .293 OBP and .608 OPS is not what they wanted to see from their everyday CF. Obviously, Robles was untouchable after 2019. Jazz Chisholm was also untouchable at one time for Arizona. It's the type of thing that the Marlins should be gambling on IMO.

                On Rule 5 draft, Marlins land Rays RHP Paul Campbell. On Wednesday's podcast for Locked on Marlins, host Aram Leighton listed Campbell as his dream pick while discounting the chances that he would be available by the time the Marlins had the chance to choose him.

                In the AAA phase of the draft, the Marlins selected aptly named Jake Fishman, a lefty from the Blue Jays organization.
                Last edited by Lee Stone; 12-10-2020, 12:45 PM.

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                • The Marlins traded a PTBNL to the DBacks for Rule 5 pick Zach Pop, a hard throwing righty bullpen arm. He was selected from the O's system after they got him as part of the Machado trade from the Dodgers. He had Tommy John surgery in May 2019. The roster is now at 40 again.

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                  • Originally posted by fauowls44 View Post
                    The Marlins traded a PTBNL to the DBacks for Rule 5 pick Zach Pop, a hard throwing righty bullpen arm. He was selected from the O's system after they got him as part of the Machado trade from the Dodgers. He had Tommy John surgery in May 2019. The roster is now at 40 again.
                    This is who they wanted in the draft but got taken before. Arizona likely makes trade cause can get a guy who doesnt need to stick on 40 man,while Pop does. The plus for us and Pop is he is coming off TJ so they can 60 Day him to start the year

                    I like Pop alot,strictly RP hits 98.

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                    • Originally posted by Lee Stone View Post

                      Don't you believe that Robles' regression last season raises any doubt for the Nats? minus .6 WAR, .220 avg. .293 OBP and .608 OPS is not what they wanted to see from their everyday CF. Obviously, Robles was untouchable after 2019. Jazz Chisholm was also untouchable at one time for Arizona. It's the type of thing that the Marlins should be gambling on IMO.

                      On Rule 5 draft, Marlins land Rays RHP Paul Campbell. On Wednesday's podcast for Locked on Marlins, host Aram Leighton listed Campbell as his dream pick while discounting the chances that he would be available by the time the Marlins had the chance to choose him.

                      In the AAA phase of the draft, the Marlins selected aptly named Jake Fishman, a lefty from the Blue Jays organization.
                      Campbell is a solid pick. He is pretty much an older Elieser. LR/Spot Starter with spin rate that gets Greenlee hard!! HAHAH Not saying they trade Elieser but if Campbell looks good u could see it happen

                      Marlins liked other arms better(RP) and got Pop too.

                      Fishman actually has some talent.Lefty with that funky delivery. Bice kid also has talent but lots of injuries

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                      • Originally posted by Lee Stone View Post

                        Don't you believe that Robles' regression last season raises any doubt for the Nats?
                        No, because MLB teams don't make rash decisions based on a single 60-game stretch. They appropriately take into account previous performance, tools, scouting reports, and so on.

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                        • Originally posted by fauowls44 View Post
                          @CraigMish
                          Marlins have interest in bringing back RP Brandon Kintzler. Feeling is mutual, Kintzler would strongly consider a return to Miami. Other teams in play. Not imminent - although this feels like something later this month that could get done. Per sources.
                          [URL="https://twitter.com/CraigMish/status/1336344400952250369"]11:18 AM
                          This would be a very foolish move for the Marlin felt office.

                          His miracle 2.22 ERA was just a mirage.

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                          • absolute no to Kintzler. Too many baserunners.

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                            • im fine with kintzler in a middle relief or 7th inning role for a small price. while i dont like his style of pitcher i think for the price we can get him at he has a track record of showing that his results out pace his peripherals which as a relief pitcher who pitches to contact after a while becomes something i actually believe in as an ability. I always prefer relievers who miss bats but its now been like 6 or 7 years out of 8 where his era has outperformed his advanced stats so i think maybe he is just incredibly effective at pitching to contact. i wouldnt mind him back for 2-3 million on a 1 year deal.

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                              • @CraigMish
                                Marlins GM Kim Ng spoke earlier today. Ng has said the club will pursue bullpen arms and I can confirm they are active on that front. Haven’t heard them in on any of the high(er) ticket pen FA’s. Bullpen pieces would best describe it.
                                [URL="https://twitter.com/CraigMish/status/1338929410062290946"]2:30 PM

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