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  • #76
    i dont see the pressing need for a MIF. Rojas can hold down SS for another year and then while jazz and diaz havent proven anything yet id at least like to give them the chance to prove themselves rather than blocking their path up here. The much more pressing need is a decent 1 year OF, a starting C, and 2-3 good RP's.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by fish16 View Post
      i dont see the pressing need for a MIF. Rojas can hold down SS for another year and then while jazz and diaz havent proven anything yet id at least like to give them the chance to prove themselves rather than blocking their path up here. The much more pressing need is a decent 1 year OF, a starting C, and 2-3 good RP's.
      There isnt which is why say go for a vet MIF instead of a Didi or good one. The reason they want 1 is cause it lets them keep Jazz,Isan,Devers in minors and should have few bucks to play with. They would rather sign a Tommy La Stella or Sogard in FA then wait and trade for 1.

      One thing that is also gonna be a theme is LHB!!! If u notice keep mentioning guys like Joc/La Stella/Sogard/Didi/Cesar Hernandez/Profar/Brad Miller

      Could see Joc(signed fast too) and a Sogard or Cesar Hernandez as FA signed bats then 2 good RP like a Liam Hendricks/Shane Greene. 4 FA guys signed then few RP signed a MilB

      We need a OF LHB with power and Mattingly loves Joc.

      Joyce-Joc
      Kintzler-Liam Hendriks
      Box-Shane Greene
      RHB(Coop/Harold/Brinson)-Sogard/Cesar Hernandez

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      • #78
        The big splash could come in a trade!! They have called on a few guysand have talked on a 3/4 for 1 trade

        3/4 like young SP,young OF,ML ready bat like Harold or Coop or Alfaro and another prospect

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        • #79
          Originally posted by tjfla View Post
          The big splash could come in a trade!! They have called on a few guysand have talked on a 3/4 for 1 trade

          3/4 like young SP,young OF,ML ready bat like Harold or Coop or Alfaro and another prospect
          this has always been the most likely thing they will do if they are going to add an impact bat. makes a ton more sense to trade for a younger guy either under team control or with a reasonable long term deal rather than dabble in free agency for a 30+ year old. Free agency really only makes sense if the COVID stuff really depresses the market or for a 2-3 year deal max. For small market teams like us thats not the best way to build.

          Definitely could see us dealing multiple pieces for a quality team controlled bat. I'd keep cooper but harold makes sense as a 3rd or 4th piece and then you have a ton of OF depth to choose from in a trade. Misner, Burdick, Scott, Jerar, Monte, etc are all guys i could see involved and it would still leave you with Bleday, Sanchez, Marte, Cooper, etc.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by tjfla View Post
            The big splash could come in a trade!! They have called on a few guysand have talked on a 3/4 for 1 trade

            3/4 like young SP,young OF,ML ready bat like Harold or Coop or Alfaro and another prospect
            I wonder what players, and really, what positions they'd be targeting.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by sports24/7 View Post

              I wonder what players, and really, what positions they'd be targeting.
              I can tell u a few they have called on. How serious no clue. Lindor/Sal Perez/Toronto on young C and IF/Colorado on bats

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              • #82
                Originally posted by fish16 View Post

                this has always been the most likely thing they will do if they are going to add an impact bat. makes a ton more sense to trade for a younger guy either under team control or with a reasonable long term deal rather than dabble in free agency for a 30+ year old. Free agency really only makes sense if the COVID stuff really depresses the market or for a 2-3 year deal max. For small market teams like us thats not the best way to build.

                Definitely could see us dealing multiple pieces for a quality team controlled bat. I'd keep cooper but harold makes sense as a 3rd or 4th piece and then you have a ton of OF depth to choose from in a trade. Misner, Burdick, Scott, Jerar, Monte, etc are all guys i could see involved and it would still leave you with Bleday, Sanchez, Marte, Cooper, etc.
                They have pieces all over just depends on what other teams want. Its like the Arizona trade-Arizona was trying hard for Cabrera or Rogers and Miami stuck to Caleb or Elieser

                SP-Rogers/Garrett/Elieser/Cabrera
                OF prospect-Jerar/Burdick/Monte/Scott/Misner/Jesus
                ML ready bat-Coop/Harold/Brinson/Alfaro
                Prospect or young arm who is in pen for us-Have multiple young players who could be thrown in a deal and multiple young RP who others see as SP

                This is what they have been offering around the league. Pick 1 from each category and lets talk is pretty much what telling teams. I dont think they trade Cabrera/Jesus/Scott

                Very willing to trade a Rogers or Monte(like said before they could have gotten Archie Bradley in Ariz deal for Monte if wanted). They like both BUT see Rogers as a RP in current Marlins rotation and Marte has CF spot with Misner/Bleday/Scott all ready in 2 years so Monte no real spot

                If a team wanted Rogers/Monte/Coop/low level arm for a solid player I could see it happening. The West is where they seem to be looking at alot.

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                • #83
                  He is injured weekly but I wouldnt mind if we called KC and went hard after Sal Perez and a RP.

                  Miami-Sal Perez and RP(they have a few solid ones)
                  KC-Trevor Rogers/Pick of Milb OF/Alfaro(replace Perez)/1 or 2 other pieces

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                  • #84
                    salvador perez with 1 year left on his deal would be interesting although he strikes me as a guy who would come here and immediately see a decrease in his numbers. He is a much better version of alfaro though given his similar awful plate discipline but obviously a clear upgrade. I wouldnt give up much for him though. 1 year left, 30 years old, 10+ million dollars due next year.

                    I would trade one of our top OF or SP prospects for Keibert Ruiz. deal from a position of strength where we have depth and add to the biggest clear hole on the team all while getting a guy with full team control left and a huge ceiling. Dont really know what the dodgers need though given that they have an unbelievable front office, great minor league depth, and more money than they know what to do with. Id tell them take whichever OF prospect other than bleday that they want and a trevor rogers or braxton garrett type arm maybe? Maybe throw dickerson in there since theyre losing pedersen and can afford to take on the salary. im super interested to see what they do with their catcher situation with smith, ruiz, and the 3rd guy in the lower minors whose name is escaping me right now. Those are the types of moves that can really help us and sticks to our long term plan of building within our means.

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                    • #85
                      if the reliever market is as down as it seems like its gonna be we really need to take full advantage. there really are a ton of quality bullpen arms out there. Hendricks, Hand, trevor may, treinen, Alex colome, kirby yates, Greg holland, mark melancn, shane greene, Jeremy jeffress, darren o day. I think 2-3 legit bullpen arms would really help take a lot of pressure off the young arms who have a ton of potential but also might struggle initially going deeper into ballgames and even pablo lopez 3 years into his career struggles in that regard.

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                      • #86
                        The Marlins are missing many ingredients to build a contender but the one that has always stuck out to me was the absence of a Freddie Freeman. If I'm spending a few bucks this year, my first choice is DJ Lemahieu. He's as close as it gets.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Lee Stone View Post
                          The Marlins are missing many ingredients to build a contender but the one that has always stuck out to me was the absence of a Freddie Freeman. If I'm spending a few bucks this year, my first choice is DJ Lemahieu. He's as close as it gets.
                          They would love him but sounding like he wants a better contender. Our FA guys will end up being Joc Pederson,Cesar Hernandez,Liam Hendriks,Shane Greene,Trenien,Colome

                          We probably get 2 or 3 solid RP and a power bat. Then sign few more MILB with invites. I could see us getting vet MIF IF IF the prices come down. They arent paying 6 million for Hernandez or Kike

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                          • #88
                            http://ballparkdigest.com/2020/11/02...f-milb-emerge/

                            Looks like Jacksonville will move up and become our AAA team, and our AA team will now be in Pensacola.

                            I approve.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Nick View Post
                              http://ballparkdigest.com/2020/11/02...f-milb-emerge/

                              Looks like Jacksonville will move up and become our AAA team, and our AA team will now be in Pensacola.

                              I approve.
                              Jupiter going to Low A and likely to add a Hi A team.

                              I mention it in minors section

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                              • #90
                                New name to add in power bat search. Eddie Rosario from Minnesota. Looks like Minn gonna non tender him

                                Rosario or Pederson would be great power LHB

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