Selling Time: Marlins Trade Deadline Discussion

[The_Godfather]

Don't really see how much value Morrison would have at this point.

Would fit nicely with the Marlins company philosophy of sell low buy high.

[rmc523]

Didn't the A's want LoMo in a Gio package?

Hindsight's always 20-20 I guess....

[Bobbob1313]

Would fit nicely with the Marlins company philosophy of sell low buy high.

I've heard Dan Le Batard say this a bunch of times. I'm not sure it holds up to even a little bit of scrutiny.

Like, they sold low on Hanley. They sold high on Infante. They sold at market value on Anibal. They sold "low" on Dan Uggla after he refused to sign an extension, but in retrospect they sold high. They sold low on... who else? They sold high on Kevin Gregg and Mike Jacobs.

They bought high on Reyes and Buck, and bought market value on Bell (Say whatever you want, but he was not coming off a career year or anything, and that's the market for All-Star closers; whether we agree with that market price...) and Beuhrle.

They bought waaaaaay low on Javier Vazquez. They have a long history of buying low on guys like Ruggiano, Cantu, Uggla, et al.

That statement shows an extremely short sighted view of the franchise.

[Erick]

I don't think they bought high on Reyes either.

[Bobbob1313]

I mean, the argument would be "He was coming off his best season."

And he was.

But I think that was probably close to the contract he was going to get anyways.

[Erick]

Yeah, I agree.

[Jay]

I think we bought high on Reyes and I've been defending the deal all year and have enjoyed the signing. But I think buying high on Reyes set the tone for the offseason and was necessary in order to reestablish the franchise as a serious player.

[Namaste]

Ok maybe they bought "high" on Reyes but there was no reason to believe he would not duplicate his recent years

Were not even talking about "buying high on Reyes" if this entire team (minus Ruggiano) didn't shit itself April, June and July.

[HUGG]

Reyes is hitting .294/.353/.465 over the last 60 games.

I had no idea, been too distracted by the shit sandwiches around him.

[Mainge]

Reyes is hitting .294/.353/.465 over the last 60 games.

I had no idea, been too distracted by the shit sandwiches around him.

Franchise crippling contract.

[MiamiHomer]

Some notes from a Miami Herald article:

### A Marlins official said there's a 50/50 chance the team will trade Josh Johnson before Tuesday's trade deadline. The Marlins want a lot, but they will carefully consider any offer. Texas, considered a likely suitor, reportedly has concerns about Johnson's health history and may be reluctant to deal top third base prospect Mike Olt.

### Impending free agents Carlos Lee and Carlos Zambrano are very much available in trades. The Marlins can't expect to get much for either - perhaps a mediocre prospect.

### An official with another team that made an offer for Hanley Ramirez told us: “We offered better prospects, but [the Dodgers] were going to pay his salary. New stadium and you trade so much money away in less than four months? Worst opening of a stadium we’ve ever seen.” Well, at least right-hander Nathan Eovaldi - acquired in the Ramirez trade - pitched well in his Marlins debut Saturday night.

### Dissatisfaction with Ramirez extended beyond teammates. One Marlins official said he’s simply not a winner; the coaching staff strongly pushed for this move.

### The Marlins badly need a third baseman (there’s nobody close to ready in the system), but the free agent class is dreadful. Assuming the Mets keep David Wright (player option), the Marlins’ best potential free agent options would be past-their-prime Kevin Youkilis ($13 million White Sox option), Placido Polanco or Eric Chavez.

There are six legitimate starting center fielders due to hit free agency: Michael Bourn, Melky Cabrera, BJ Upton, Angel Pagan, Cody Ross and Shane Victorino. Most will be costly, and the Marlins might be more cautious spenders this winter.

### One Marlins executive said he still believes Larry Beinfest still has good job security, though Jeffrey Loria could easily change his mind. Remember that it was Loria who wanted John Buck, Jose Reyes and Heath Bell. And the scouting department shoulders much of the blame for numerous first-round picks that flopped, though Beinfest has final say.

### The Marlins are optimistic they have filled their longterm catcher void in the Tigers trade with left-handed hitting Rob Brantly, who’s hitting .293 this year between Double A and Triple A. “Offensively, he projects as a frontline catcher,” Tigers scout Mike Russell said. “Left-handed hitting catching is very difficult to find. He has a plus arm but his offense is ahead of his defense.”

Regrettably, Buck has one year left on his deal at $6 million. And Kyle Skipworth, drafted sixth overall by the Marlins in 2008, is hitting .213 at Double A, though he has five home runs in his past eight games and .

Marlins trade chatter

[lou]

Must be an Oakland official. That's not the whole story either. They might have offered better prospects, but Eovaldi plus using that money on a free agent, could trump the "better prospects." Typical media crap there.

[MiamiHomer]

Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Heard #Nationals liked #Marlins' Bonifacio. Told, "ain't happening."

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[Valid]

Must be an Oakland official. That's not the whole story either. They might have offered better prospects, but Eovaldi plus using that money on a free agent, could trump the "better prospects." Typical media crap there.

And who knows if the prospects were actually "better" anyway? Also, if it was an Oakland official, then LOL about him making fun of our organization.

Just sour grapes.

[tjfla]

Ya the team was Oakland we had a deal with them however we had to pay about 20 million

Cincy also wanted Boner

Only guys who might be moved before Deadline-Zambrano,Lee,Dobbs

JJ's price is too high for anyone and now that Lee is on the market Texas is ALL in on him. Also some talk about Buck but nothing there