General FA: Beinfest Says Rotation Set

[Beef]

What's with the "does he? Lol" at the end?

[Metes]

That tweet is the dumbest sounding thing ever

[Erick]

Hugo's my barber, as well. I'm also left-handed. I'll be pitching for the Marlins next year.

[MiamiHomer]

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From Frisaro on @ZaslowShow: Marlins want two established starters think they'll sign one and get one via trade

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Frisaro on @ZaslowShow: The #Marlins will move their top prospects it's never stopped them from making a trade. (Yelich, James, Dominguez)

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[THE_REAL_MIBS]

I know this is Frisaro but I still don't get why he thinks we'd move our top prospects when, just two months ago, we restructured our front office a bit to focus on replenishing the farm. Beinfest or Hill (can't remember who now) even said that re-establishing depth is a priority we have this offseason. Trading what little prospects we have doesn't fit that philosophy unless we trade an Anibal, Nolasco or, as the MLB Network thinks we could do, Hanley to get some more top prospects back in return.

If that is true, Loria and the front office need to take a look at the Astros. They spent years trading away their top prospects and look where they are now and how they finished the year this year.

[MiamiHomer]

The Marlins are at a point right now that if they can get a strong return to help right now that it isn't a bad idea. Free agency looks like it's going to be the main source for filling up positions in the near future. If they move guys for a Shields or Gio then I think that isn't a bad move at all.

[Erick]

I know this is Frisaro but I still don't get why he thinks we'd move our top prospects when, just two months ago, we restructured our front office a bit to focus on replenishing the farm. Beinfest or Hill (can't remember who now) even said that re-establishing depth is a priority we have this offseason. Trading what little prospects we have doesn't fit that philosophy unless we trade an Anibal, Nolasco or, as the MLB Network thinks we could do, Hanley to get some more top prospects back in return.

If that is true, Loria and the front office need to take a look at the Astros. They spent years trading away their top prospects and look where they are now and how they finished the year this year.

You replenish the farm system via the draft, not necessarily with our current prospects alone.

There are many ways to replenish the farm system.

You're being too narrow-minded.
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The Marlins are at a point right now that if they can get a strong return to help right now that it isn't a bad idea. Free agency looks like it's going to be the main source for filling up positions in the near future. If they move guys for a Shields or Gio then I think that isn't a bad move at all.

It wouldn't be.

[THE_REAL_MIBS]

I'm not talking about low level depth that we would get from the draft. One thing this past season showed us and what prompted us to reorganize the front office is that we didn't have anyone that could fill in when guys got hurt. All of our top talent is in AA or below. That's why we were talking about one of our priorities being to add depth this offseason; so we don't end up up a creek when someone inevitably get hurts next year like what happened this year.

[nny]

If that is true, Loria and the front office need to take a look at the Astros. They spent years trading away their top prospects and look where they are now and how they finished the year this year.

Or the Phillies. Look how shit they have done trading away their top prospects.

[THE_REAL_MIBS]

Or the Phillies. Look how shit they have done trading away their top prospects.

Our system as it is right now is NOTHING like the Phillies. They had good talent at the top levels that they could call on when someone got hurt. We don't. They also traded Cliff Lee and got top prospects back in return.

[MiamiHomer]

Moving prospects for pieces that can help now > keeping prospects to cover possible injury issues

Also our "depth" is low in the minors because they are in the majors now.

[nny]

Our system as it is right now is NOTHING like the Phillies. They had good talent at the top levels that they could call on when someone got hurt[1]. We don't. They also traded Cliff Lee and got top prospects back in return[2].

[1] Like? Cuz Vance Worley has been the only productive guy they have called up in the past several years. Maybe you could make an argument about Happ but his peripherals sucked

[2] What they got for Cliff Lee:

Tyson Gillies: .233/.269/.333 slash line since trade
Phillippe Aumont: 4.76 ERA since trade
J.C. Ramirez: 4.66 ERA since trade

So...what?

Also, the three guys they got for Cliff Lee NEVER were in the top 100.

Here's what they've traded away.

Oswalt:
Jonathan Villar ('11=#94)

Cliff Lee (All four guys=top 100 guys):
Lou Marson ('09=#66)
Jason Donald ('09=#69)
Carrasco ('09=#52, '08=#54, '07=#41)
Knapp ('10=#64)

Roy Halladay (All three=top 100 guys)
Travid d'Arnaud ('11=#36, '10=#81)
Kyle Drabek ('11=#29, '10=#25)
Michael Taylor ('10=#29

Pence (FORGOT ABOUT HIM!):
Singleton ('11=#39)
Costar ('11=#70)

Since '09, they have traded TEN top 100 prospects, receiving NONE back via trade, and have only called up one player that had any impact.

[Big Z]

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[Jay]

The club benefits greatly by selling the farm and going all in this year. Depth can be provided via journeyman players incase of injuries and better replacements can be acquired if they are needed.

[nny]

Oh, and for the record, I'm not a fan of trading our prospects with how barren we are (But shit's situational and if the right deal comes by, do it), but your argument against ("Look at my one example of the Astros, who have been run by a retarded chimpanzee!") is as dumb as the chimp running the Astros.