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  • #31
    And what happens if Cantu gets plunked by a pitch and breaks his wrist? Does the trade still go through? That doesn't make any sense for him to still be playing if the trade is complete.

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    • #32
      Considering we are only paying 600k of the 2 mil, we got a pretty good deal.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by mbaamin08 View Post
        When did he have Tommy John? Is he close to returning or is he going to be out the rest of the year?
        Gonna say between April-June of 2010. Looks like he was injured in early March they waited and just decided to get it instead

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        • #34
          I like the trade, would like it even more if we use the 1.5 million we saved to sign Randy Leblanc, Sam Bates/Taylor Ard, Mark Canha, and Jonathan Crawford.

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          • #35
            The Jorge Cantu Trade: Florida’s Perspective

            by Bryan Smith - July 29, 2010 · Comments

            The Florida Marlins woke up this morning with a less than 5% chance to make the playoffs. Jorge Cantu is two months from free agency, and at the last check, will not be ranked highly enough by Elias to award free agent compensation. If there was value to be had for Cantu, any at all, the Marlins had no choice but to get it. With all that said, it’s hard not to like the two prospects the Marlins acquired from the Rangers today, Evan Reed and Omar Poveda.

            Poveda is the more familiar name in prospect circles, despite a six-year career with only one stop (second tour of Midwest League, 2007) yielding an ERA below 4.00. He has not pitched in 2010 while recovering from Tommy John surgery. The thinking is that an injured arm altered Poveda’s performance in 2009, where his K/9 essentially was halved.

            The Venezuelan right-hander never had a particularly good fastball, so there has to be some concern that he’ll return to the mound without a heater to speak of. If so, it’s unlikely to project that he’d be able to carve out a big league career. But, he was a guy that had a feel for a change-up and curveball, and will likely come out of the gate pitching backwards. It’s not a sexy career path, and it’s an unlikely one to work, but again, it’s a near-free shot in the dark for Florida.

            The better chance at providing actual value to the Marlins is Evan Reed. A third-round pick in the 2007 draft, the Rangers drafted the Cal Poly closer with the intention of making him a starting pitcher. Doing so for the 2008 season was a bit of a disaster — between the California League and pacing himself, Reed lost his abilities to strike people out and keep the ball in the park. It clearly was misguided, and the Rangers acted swiftly last year, moving him back to the closer role. Reed responded with a 12.0 K/9 and 0.2 HR/9. He was over his head in the Arizona Fall League, however, allowing three home runs in limited work.

            Up to Double-A this season, the results have been excellent. Reed comes after people with his 92-94 mph fastball, and is now commanding it at the best rate of his career. He’s groundball heavy on his best days, and never seems to allow home runs. It’s highly likely that Reed contributes at the Major League level in the seventh and eighth innings. He will be ready to join the Major League team sometime between the middle of next season and Opening Day 2012.

            Evan Reed will produce more WAR with the Marlins than Jorge Cantu will with the Rangers. And anything that either Reed or Poveda ever provides will be gravy, considering the Marlins tenuous spot in the NL East standings.
            http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/
            Originally posted by Matt Wilson
            Fish and Chips just became the smartest man on the board
            Tom Koehler(4-0)
            AAA: 7 GS, 40.2 IP, 2.66 ERA, 34 H, 12 ER, 17 BB, 31 SO, GO/AO 0.87, BAA .233 , 1.25 WHIP

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            • #36
              Not the biggest fan of Evan Reed as already said. Last year when he had awesome K rates, he was 23 year old in A+. This year in AA it was just 7.8 and at 24, he was a year older than you'd like to see a guy in AA.

              I dunno, he just seems like a Tim Wood/Garrett Parcell/ect kind of guy, someone who might be able to be an average reliever but is probably below. I mean, like the guy said in the fangraphs article, he'll be better for us than what keeping Cantu would do, not saying "bad trade". I just don't like him.

              Poveda seems real cool though. That's what I want to see for someone shitty like Cantu: High risk, high reward. We have enough "Evan Reeds" as is. I mean, not the biggest fan of Poveda's cuz of his massive FB, but he's still cool

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              • #37
                4:00pm: Though Cantu is on the field for the Marlins, the Rangers will acquire him, according to Joel Sherman of the New York Post (via Twitter). The Marlins will pay $600K of Cantu's salary.
                http://twitter.com/Joelsherman1/status/19854460831

                EDIT: Late.
                Last edited by Valid; 07-29-2010, 04:52 PM.

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                • #38
                  Jorge Cantu Traded to Texas

                  More as I reorganize this thread.

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                  • #39
                    Evan Read and Omar Poveda. Poveda is recovering from TJ

                    Late too. Didn't realize this was on page two lol. Sorry
                    Last edited by Miamarlin21; 07-29-2010, 05:19 PM.
                    LHP Chad James-Jupiter Hammerheads-

                    5-15 3.80 ERA (27 starts) 149.1IP 173H 63ER 51BB 124K

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                    • #40
                      "'I'm going,' Cantu said after the game."

                      Money quote, AP. Just fantastic.

                      http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=300729126

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                      • #41
                        we're a crack staff

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                        • #42
                          Looks like Will Carroll was pretty wrong.

                          Can't imagine shedding $1.5 mil somehow checks out with the "mandate" sent out by the MLBPA.

                          As for the trade, I like it, just get him out of here. If he wants Helms' spot this offseason, great.

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                          • #43
                            Marlins Acquire
                            Evan Reed, rhp
                            Age: 24.
                            Born: Dec. 31, 1985 in Santa Maria, Calif.
                            Ht.: 6-4. Wt.: 225. Bats: R. Throws: R.
                            School: Cal Poly.
                            Career Transactions: Selected by Rangers in third round of 2007 draft; signed July 3, 2007.

                            Club (League) Class W L ERA G GS SV IP H R ER HR BB SO WHIP
                            Frisco (TL) AA 1 1 1.62 30 0 5 39 35 7 7 0 13 34 1.23
                            Okla. City (PCL) AAA 1 0 4.50 1 0 0 2 1 1 1 1 0 2 0.50
                            Total 2 1 1.76 31 0 5 41 36 8 8 1 13 36 1.20
                            It's all about the fastball for Reed, who sits in the low 90s and can go get 95 mph with plus boring life up in the zone. His slider is average most times out and features late, short break. Reed moved to the bullpen in 2009, as he repeated high Class A Bakersfield, and has gradually shown better control in that role. With his physical 6-foot-4 build and ability to get on top of the ball, he could have a future in middle relief.

                            Omar Poveda, rhp
                            Age: 22.
                            Born: Sept. 28, 1987 in Turmero, Venezuela.
                            Ht.: 6-4. Wt.: 215. Bats: R. Throws: R.
                            Career Transactions: Signed as nondrafted free agent by Rangers, July 20, 2004.

                            Club (League) Class W L ERA G GS SV IP H R ER HR BB SO WHIP
                            Has not played—Injured
                            The Rangers added Poveda to the 40-man roster following the 2008 season, after he had struck out 9.6 batters per nine innings in the high Class A California League. However, he made just 17 starts that year because he missed time with a shoulder injury. Poveda held his own as a 21-year-old in Double-A in '09, but a hand injury sidelined him for a few weeks. The news got worse this spring, when Poveda learned that he had a completely torn elbow ligament and that Tommy John surgery was required. The pre-TJ version of Poveda featured an 88-92 mph fastball, an above-average changeup and an average curveball with some depth. Of course, the world may have to wait a year or more to see that Poveda re-emerge. If he pans out, he's probably a command-oriented starter who fits at the back of the rotation.
                            http://www.baseballamerica.com/today...0/2610438.html

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                            • #44
                              So we got a Chris Leroux and an injured Alex Sanabia for Cantu. I'll take it!
                              poop

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                              • #45
                                Addition by subtraction, that we got anything for him is a bonus.

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