Report: Marlins trade Cantu to Rangers for Evan Reed, Omar Poveda

[Party]

With all the rumors of Uggla and Nolasco getting extensions, I wouldn't be surprised if there was an organizational shift in policy for offering FAs arbitration. COUGHSTADIUMCOUGH

[Big Z]

TJ, any clue as to whether these prospects are ML ready? Also, do you happen to have any names as to who is being mentioned? I can't believe we are asking for 3 prospects in return for Cantu

[tjfla]

With all the rumors of Uggla and Nolasco getting extensions, I wouldn't be surprised if there was an organizational shift in policy for offering FAs arbitration. COUGHSTADIUMCOUGH

Ya I was thinking the same thing but when u haven't done it in 3 years,its kinda hard to bluff a team. It's like cheating on every gf u ever had and then all of sudden tell your new gf u will never cheat on her Everyone knows u do something so u word means nothing

No clue about names.We liked Beau Jones(LOOGY) in the offseason but no idea.Well u gotta look at the market. Royals got 2 prospects for Callaspo,so that is what all the teams will ask for,plus we will be paying his salary.That equals 2 prospects plus even better ones because paying his salary.Then if Beinfest says he is gonna offer arbitration to Cantu who will be Type B he can prolly get a younger guy from the DSL or Low A Ball thrown in. So comes out to 3 prospects

[Ramp]

Source: #Marlins in "ongoing conversations" with #Rangers about Cantu. Fish also talking to #Rockies, #Giants. Rangers also (more) #MLB

considering #Orioles' Wigginton, others. Fish would move Coghlan to 3B, call up L. Morrison to play LF. #Rangers #MLB

-Ken Rosenthal

[FishFanInPA]

Such addition by subtraction.

[Valid]

I guess I'm the only one who thinks this would be a mistake, but whatever.

[Ramp]

He's a below average bat at both positions he plays. And his defense sucks too.

[Miamarlin21]

Why are you against this Valid?

[Valid]

He's a below average bat at both positions he plays. And his defense sucks too.

You're throwing a rookie into the lineup in the middle of a playoff race and expecting him to produce right off the bat. You're also putting Coghlan at a position he hasn't played in God knows how long.

Everyone has been complaining about this offense all year and, if this happens, we're losing (whether you like it or not) one of our best run producers. I don't care if he's a below average bat "at his position." That is really meaningless at this point, especially when you're replacing him with Coghlan, who is NOT a third-base type of hitter.

Due to the fact that everyone here has pretty much followed his career, how you can all think Cantu is not due to go off at some point really puzzles me.

[Ramp]

Cantu is only one of our best run producers because he hit cleanup for 100 games

[Miamarlin21]

You're throwing a rookie into the lineup in the middle of a playoff race and expecting him to produce right off the bat. You're also putting Coghlan at a position he hasn't played in God knows how long.

Everyone has been complaining about this offense all year and, if this happens, we're losing (whether you like it or not) one of our best run producers. I don't care if he's a below average bat "at his position." That is really meaningless at this point, especially when you're replacing him with Coghlan, who is NOT a third-base type of hitter.

Due to the fact that everyone here has pretty much followed his career, how you can all think Cantu is not due to go off at some point really puzzles me.

i understand your concerns. It's either gonna be hit or miss with LoMo. We just have to chance it I guess.

As for last time Cogs played third, not sure about last year but I know he did in 08. I'm just surprised the Marlins want him there but it's fine with me.

[Valid]

Cantu is only one of our best run producers because he hit cleanup for 100 games

I guess the fact that he is hitting .302 with RISP has nothing to do with it either?

[emkayseven]

You're throwing a rookie into the lineup in the middle of a playoff race and expecting him to produce right off the bat. You're also putting Coghlan at a position he hasn't played in God knows how long.

Everyone has been complaining about this offense all year and, if this happens, we're losing (whether you like it or not) one of our best run producers. I don't care if he's a below average bat "at his position." That is really meaningless at this point, especially when you're replacing him with Coghlan, who is NOT a third-base type of hitter.

Due to the fact that everyone here has pretty much followed his career, how you can all think Cantu is not due to go off at some point really puzzles me.

a) we're only superficially in the playoff race
b) no one said they're expecting him to produce right off the bat
c) he played some 3b in the minors last year (I'm not God but I know that)
d) driving runners home with flyouts because the 1-3 hitters get on base ahead of you doesn't make you a great run producer, that's just opportunistic
e) doesn't really matter if Coghlan isn't a 3B type hitter since Uggla isn't a 2B type hitter

[Ramp]

I guess the fact that he is hitting .302 with RISP has nothing to do with it either?

It helps, but his sub .800 OPS with RISP is still terrible

[Valid]

a) we're only superficially in the playoff race
b) no one said they're expecting him to produce right off the bat
c) he played some 3b in the minors last year (I'm not God but I know that)
d) driving runners home with flyouts because the 1-3 hitters get on base ahead of you doesn't make you a great run producer, that's just opportunistic
e) doesn't really matter if Coghlan isn't a 3B type hitter since Uggla isn't a 2B type hitter

a) You have a different view of the team than I do then.
b) You're inserting him into the lineup on (in my opinion) a playoff contending team. That's expecting him to produce right away.
c) He was barely in the minors last year and (if I'm not mistaken) predominantly played second base over his final two years or so in the farm system.
d) I never said he was a "great" run-producer; just that he is one of the better ones on the team.
e) Which proves my point that judging hitters by position is essentially pointless.
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It helps, but his sub .800 OPS with RISP is still terrible

Hanley is OPSing .788 with RISP. Why is nobody getting on his case then? He is our franchise player, after all (and no; I am NOT comparing Ramirez to Cantu as a player).