Valentine Out of Running - Heyman

[Swifty]

Your boy works for Rosenthal, right? If so, what you've said directly contradicts what the above article - an article written by Rosenthal - says.

Rosenthal is saying the struggle is not over money, or, alternatively, that the Loria wants to hire Valentine and Samson does not. If your boy is getting his info from Rosenthal, why is your boy's info contradicting what Rosenthal is writing?

u KNOW it?

[Chewford]

serious fun.

[THE_REAL_MIBS]

joecapMARLINS: Edwin Rodriguez held team meeting, told players to ignore managerial stuff #Marlins

joecapMARLINS: Edwin says managerial stuff has been a bit of a distraction # Marlins

/Twitter

Nice how this firing Fredi to "spark the team" completely backfired.

[tjfla]

Your boy works for Rosenthal, right? If so, what you've said directly contradicts what the above article - an article written by Rosenthal - says.

Rosenthal is saying the struggle is not over money, or, alternatively, that the Loria wants to hire Valentine and Samson does not. If your boy is getting his info from Rosenthal, why is your boy's info contradicting what Rosenthal is writing?

No he works as a sports researcher for Fox Sports,as in he sits at a computer and a phone and the "sources" u hear about are what he hears from people and then he passes the info onto the names like heyman,Rosenthal.

The article says

One source says that something happened in the final discussions between Loria and Valentine — not a squabble over money or struggle over control, but a philosophical dispute.

Others, however, suggest that Loria is engaged in an internal power struggle with his stepson, club president David Samson, who is opposed to hiring Valentine.

I am saying from what he told me is the philosophical dispute is over the willingness to spend money. My buddy didnt say anything about Samson.

[Ramp]

I don't buy this Bobby V stuff being a distraction.

So like when Hanley is up with the bases loaded, he's probably wondering what kind of daiquiri Fredi is drinking. Or like when a groundball comes to Uggla, he's all wondering if Bobby V can even grow a real mustache.

Edwin seems like a horrible manager.

[Swifty]

Hetman reporting Porter is now the front runner.

Clearly, we have no idea what we're doing.

[Ramp]

He played football at Iowa.

/addsnothingtothread,likeheaddsnothingtoourteam

[Sashimi]

Honestly, what is the point of hiring Porter now? Why not just keep Edwin for the rest of the season? Or is he needed back at AAA?

[Bobbob1313]

Is anyone really going to be upset that we have one manager and not the other?

[Swifty]

I would be upset if we hired Porter, sends all the wrong messages.

One, we dismissed him in the offseason. Two, he was interviewed as an afterthought. Three, the move was made, at least outwardly, to get Bobby V.

This isn't me clamoring for Valentine, but the organization has to at least look like it knows what it's doing, this doesn't help that.

[THE_REAL_MIBS]

Yeah, hiring Bo Porter is just stupid. He was fired in the offseason for a reason. He's not good enough to coach 3rd base and the outfielders (IIRC) but he's good enough to manage the entire team?

As for the distraction thing, I can kind of see where he's coming from. Not that the players are thinking about specifics on the field but more that the whole team is now pressing after putting the blame on themselves for Fredi getting fired. That's what it feels like which is why I said that the firing backfired.

[Ramp]

Yeah, hiring Bo Porter is just stupid. He was fired in the offseason for a reason. He's not good enough to coach 3rd base and the outfielders (IIRC) but he's good enough to manage the entire team?

Reading way too much into this I think

[nny]

He was not fired, he was offered a contract and he declined.
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Marlins | Porter, Foster will not return
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Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:02:12 -0400

Alden Gonzalez, of MLB.com, reports Florida Marlins third base/outfield coach Bo Porter and bullpen coach Steve Foster declined offers to return for the 2010 season Friday, Oct. 9.

Marlins | Five coaches offered contracts
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Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:17:26 -0400

Juan C. Rodriguez, of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, reports Florida Marlins bench coach Carlos Tosca, hitting coach Jim Presley, third base/outfield coach Bo Porter, bullpen coach Steve Foster and bullpen coordinator Pierre Arsenault have all been offered contracts for the 2010 season.

http://www.kffl.com/player/6848/mlb

[HUGG]

Bo Porter is the perfect manager for this organization. He will question nothing.

[lou]

I would be upset if we hired Porter, sends all the wrong messages.

One, we dismissed him in the offseason. Two, he was interviewed as an afterthought. Three, the move was made, at least outwardly, to get Bobby V.

This isn't me clamoring for Valentine, but the organization has to at least look like it knows what it's doing, this doesn't help that.

Oh they know what they are doing.

Giving the job to someone no one cares about (and who is familiar with the team), and will sack him in 1 1/2 years for a high profile manager.