Valentine Out of Running - Heyman

[Namaste]

If that's the case, then fuck him. Take over now and right the ship if you are so good.

God I hate you so much

[THE_REAL_MIBS]

All this "he is/ he isn't a candidate" thing is making my head spin.

[Party]

You know what's funny/sad: that if the PR series didn't exist, Bobby V is probably the manager last week. Letting it drag on so Edwin could manage there was dumb and probably at least partially responsible for the Valentine realization of the douchiness of our organization.

We're pretty clueless. I love it.

I think this had zero influence in anything.

[Big Z]

As always, Loria is a piece of shit owner. it really shows something when not even your friend of 20 years wants to manage your fucking team.

[Swifty]

"High ranking sources" said we wanted to let Edwin have the PR series. I trust that report as much as i do these in/out reports.

Really sad thing is, regardless of their truthfulness, they can't be dismissed absolutely because our organization is that clueless.

[Beef]

Yeah, but why do those reports show how we're clueless in letting the great Robert V get away?

[MiamiHomer]

I'm applying for the job.

[Ralph]

Bobby Valentine produced drama without ever getting named Marlins manager.

Valentine no longer is a candidate to replace Fredi Gonzalez, according to a major-league source.The news, first reported by SI.com, represents a stunning turnaround for a franchise that had seemingly every intention of hiring Valentine.

The talks between the two sides broke down not over Valentine’s salary desires, but philosophical differences, the source said.

While the source indicated that the team’s decision is final, the volatility of both Valentine and Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria creates at least the possibility of another reversal.

Valentine said on ESPN Sunday night that said he was still “in the process” with the Marlins, and another source with knowledge of his situation said he was “definitely in talks” with the team.

But interim manager Edwin Rodriguez, the first Puerto Rican-born manager, will remain manager for the Marlins’ series against the Mets in Puerto Rico and foreseeable future.

The Marlins, who have interviewed both Rodriguez and Diamondbacks third-base coach Bo Porter for Gonzalez’s position, now figure to expand their search to other candidates.


Valentine, currently an ESPN analyst, had been the front-runner to replace Gonzalez, whom the Marlins fired last Wednesday.

SI.com reported Friday that Valentine had reached at least a tentative deal with the team. ESPN.com reported that the Marlins were expected to offer Valentine a four-year contract.

Loria and Valentine are longtime friends. The owner’s courtship of Valentine dates to the end of last season, when Loria nearly fired Gonzalez.

Rodriguez previously was the Marlins’ Triple A manager. Porter, before joining the Diamondbacks this season, spent the previous five years in the Marlins’ organization, serving as third base coach and outfield and baserunning instructor from 2007 to ’09.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/B...arlins-manager

[Swifty]

Yeah, but why do those reports show how we're clueless in letting the great Robert V get away?

Not clueless in letting Bobby get away. Clueless that we call it an "ongoing process" despite naming only one truly viable candidate, and then failing to finish that.

The issue isn't Valentine, the issue is he's the guy we wanted and we can't get it done for whatever reason. That's pretty sad.

[Ralph]

If it's philosophical differences like the article states I believe it was Beinfest who pulled the plug and Loria probably ended up supporting him.

[Party]

The talks between the two sides broke down not over Valentine’s salary desires, but philosophical differences, the source said.

Yeah, so Beinfest and Hill talked Loria out of it.

[Beef]

DolfanJake says source is a liar, Loria is a moneyhungrygreedface

[Namaste]

I really see no reason to add payroll to the team as it stands now.


Keep JJ/Hanley/Stanton/Uggla and prepare for the new stadium.



/just returned from a long day of drinking and has very little to add to this

[Swifty]

Keeping Uggla ultimately means adding (significant) payroll.

[Beef]

I really despise Stanton right now