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  • #31
    I don't think there's any misconception about the type of player he is. He is who he is. I don't think he's going to not get a big payday because of some false image of him as "lucky" or "injury prone". He's going to get a decent pay day, because he can mash the hell out of the ball at times, but he's going to not get a huge payday because he's inconsistent (.689 OPS from August 1 on last year, .559 OPS in April), he can't play a full season, he's a liability in the field, and he's 31.

    There's really not any reason for anyone to give him more than say, 3 years, 21 million. He's a nice player, and the Marlins fucked with him by not letting him be an everyday player until he was too old to really have a full career and that sucks, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have his flaws. It has nothing to do with a general misconception about him and everything to do with his very real flaws as a long term product.
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    • #32
      I think he gets paid. "Supposedly" there was a lot of interest in teams trading for him.

      If he gets cheap, I'd think he plays for the Rays. Not putting much thought into it, but I believe the vast-majority of stat-oriented teams are already stacked on the corners. Both Pena and Burrell won't be there next year, so he'd have 1b or DH gig.
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      For the record, since bob posted while i was typing, by being "paid" I'm thinking like 2-3 years around 7-10 mil yeah. Assuming he stays the course this season obviously
      Last edited by nny; 03-04-2010, 11:57 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged

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      • #33
        He was a top 20-35 outfielder in baseball last year, if you make the minimum PAs 500. That's great, but it's not elite. 7-10 mil a year sounds about right for 3, and he probably doesn't earn the entire contract. I don't think he's going to age well. I'm glad he's getting one big pay day, but I don't think he "deserves" more than he's likely to get. He's going to be pretty properly valued.
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        • #34
          He's gonna OPS .912 this year and prob be top 25 in the MVP voting

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          • #35
            I'll take the under on that for a hundge

            2 poor months will keep him in the .890 range

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Bobbob1313 View Post
              I don't think there's any misconception about the type of player he is. He is who he is. I don't think he's going to not get a big payday because of some false image of him as "lucky" or "injury prone". He's going to get a decent pay day, because he can mash the hell out of the ball at times, but he's going to not get a huge payday because he's inconsistent (.689 OPS from August 1 on last year, .559 OPS in April), he can't play a full season, he's a liability in the field, and he's 31.

              There's really not any reason for anyone to give him more than say, 3 years, 21 million. He's a nice player, and the Marlins fucked with him by not letting him be an everyday player until he was too old to really have a full career and that sucks, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have his flaws. It has nothing to do with a general misconception about him and everything to do with his very real flaws as a long term product.
              Willingham is very Ryan Ludwickish. At least I consider their talent and career paths to be a relatively good reflection of eachother.
              Amy Adams, AKA Cinnamon Muff
              Logan Morrison: "If baseball didn't exist, I would probably be ... like a curler. Or a hairstylist."
              Noah Perio
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              39 AB
              15 H
              0 2B
              0 3B
              0 HR
              0 BB
              .385/.385/.385

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