6/27 - 7/3 Minor League Game Thread

[fish16]

who cares if they bust? The point of IFA spending is to take as many swings as possible. I'd much rather spend $5 on someone who has potential rather than take the loria approach o never sppending any of that IFA money. And yes, the options last year pretty much were $5 on the mesa brothers or not spend it because most of those guys were already signed with teams by the time we were able to start scouting with our current front office I believe. Plus, while it is early and he's only in GCL, i think victor Jr. is going to be a potential stud for us down the line. His numbers are impressive. I hate to repeat what frisaro said, but he probably would be a first rounder if he were in the US and eligible for next years draft.

[Namaste]

holy shit trevor rogers. He and garrett have done enough to move on to AA for the rest of the year soon. At this rate, if they continue to develop like this they could get a shot in the bigs towards the end of next year.

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Also, it's still early, but early indications are that Connor Scott stinks. That draft pick is inexcusable. Had liberatore on the board or gorman or even xavier edwards who is lighting it up

Xavier Edwards was a no brainer to me. We had a need at SS (assuming he’s still playing SS).

[fish16]

Xavier Edwards was a no brainer to me. We had a need at SS (assuming he’s still playing SS).

Ill be honest, i didnt really want him even though i did go to the high school he went to when i was in elementary and middle school, but the scott pick came out of nowhere, and given how quickly liberatore was falling and how we needed front line starting pitching, he was a no brainer to me. And his numbers this year indicate that he should have been the pick.

[Nick]

who cares if they bust? The point of IFA spending is to take as many swings as possible. I'd much rather spend $5 on someone who has potential rather than take the loria approach o never sppending any of that IFA money. And yes, the options last year pretty much were $5 on the mesa brothers or not spend it because most of those guys were already signed with teams by the time we were able to start scouting with our current front office I believe. Plus, while it is early and he's only in GCL, i think victor Jr. is going to be a potential stud for us down the line. His numbers are impressive. I hate to repeat what frisaro said, but he probably would be a first rounder if he were in the US and eligible for next years draft.

I care if they bust. I know we're in the mindset that it's a positive that we spend on IFA at all it's a positive because of Loria, but the scouting department still has a job to do.

[tjfla]

I care if they bust. I know we're in the mindset that it's a positive that we spend on IFA at all it's a positive because of Loria, but the scouting department still has a job to do.

Ya the scouting dept missed on VV. Baltimore was willing to spend 6 Mil for him and MLB.com,Keith Law,BA and Fangraphs all had him as #1 IFA but its our scouting dept fauly

[Nick]

Ya the scouting dept missed on VV. Baltimore was willing to spend 6 Mil for him and MLB.com,Keith Law,BA and Fangraphs all had him as #1 IFA but its our scouting dept fauly

I cant tell if you're serious. You're saying since other people and teams have the wrong opinion of a player. It's ok for us to have that same wrong opinion? Do you understand the job description of a scout?

[fish16]

I cant tell if you're serious. You're saying since other people and teams have the wrong opinion of a player. It's ok for us to have that same wrong opinion? Do you understand the job description of a scout?

Scouting isn’t a science, especially IFA. Go look at the number one player in the ifa marker each year on mlb pipelines list. Yes, it sucks that he stinks so far, but the fact that they are consistently involved in the IFA market every year is more important than any one free agent. He was a 22 year old who hadn’t played in like 2 years coming out of Cuba, no one ever said he was a sure thing.

[Nick]

We paid the equivalent of first round slot money for Mesa, glad they're spending on IFA, but if they're open to criticism on Connor Scott they have to be open to criticism on Mesa. Especially considering Scott is still young for his level and Mesa is old for his level.

[fish16]

We paid the equivalent of first round slot money for Mesa, glad they're spending on IFA, but if they're open to criticism on Connor Scott they have to be open to criticism on Mesa. Especially considering Scott is still young for his level and Mesa is old for his level.

that money disappears if you dont use it. it's not like you can save it for future years for better players. we had a certain amount of cash left and he was the only guy left and every other guy from last years IFA period had already been committed for years essentially. We also got mesa jr. out of it who looks like the better player and a legit prospect moving forward. I just think its kind of ridiculous to criticize the front office for whiffing on an IFA guy. seriously, go look at the mlb pipeline top international players by year. the vast majority whiff. but you can never hit a home run if you dont consistently try to at least swing for the fences. IFA by its very nature is a crapshoot. You are trying to project 16 year old kids or guys like mesa who are 22 and usually havent played in a year after defecting. There are gonna be swings and misses. The fact that they are continually trying to invest in IFA is the much bigger story, even if it sucks that it looks like Mesa is going to become a 4th OF at best.

[Nick]

that money disappears if you dont use it. it's not like you can save it for future years for better players. we had a certain amount of cash left and he was the only guy left and every other guy from last years IFA period had already been committed for years essentially. We also got mesa jr. out of it who looks like the better player and a legit prospect moving forward. I just think its kind of ridiculous to criticize the front office for whiffing on an IFA guy. seriously, go look at the mlb pipeline top international players by year. the vast majority whiff. but you can never hit a home run if you dont consistently try to at least swing for the fences. IFA by its very nature is a crapshoot. You are trying to project 16 year old kids or guys like mesa who are 22 and usually havent played in a year after defecting. There are gonna be swings and misses. The fact that they are continually trying to invest in IFA is the much bigger story, even if it sucks that it looks like Mesa is going to become a 4th OF at best.

They traded for a lot of that money specifically with the intent of signing VVM. It's a little different missing on a 16-17 year old IFA prospect which most guys in the IFA process are. Mesa got $5 million because the thought was this is a guy that's far along, he won't spend a ton of time in the minors, an advanced prospect. From what we've seen that's far from the case. They wouldn't have given him $5 million if they thought signing VVM was a crapshoot. Again, I think you're still hung up on being so excited that we're actually spending money on IFA because Loria didn't. Newsflash, Jeff Loria was the worst owner in sports, let's raise our standards here, every other team spends on IFA.

[Nick]

Nasim Nunez, very very early, but .323 average so far with a .421 OBP. fish16 and I had a discussion about slap hitters, and comparing him to Dee Gordon, perhaps early indications that Nunez will take walks? If so, could be a very exciting prospect if his defense is all we're being told it is.

[Ralph]

Matt Givin is officially back.

[Nick]

Edward Cabrera off to a great start in AA, I think this guy will be an easy Top 100 prospect by season's end.

[tjfla]

Nasim Nunez, very very early, but .323 average so far with a .421 OBP. fish16 and I had a discussion about slap hitters, and comparing him to Dee Gordon, perhaps early indications that Nunez will take walks? If so, could be a very exciting prospect if his defense is all we're being told it is.

Has had 2 3 walk games already

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Matt Givin is officially back.

Been back the 8 innings was between 2 days(start looks better than it was). Givin should be in Clinton to start 2020 but wouldnt surprise to see him in Jupiter very quickly

Rookie teams all have some solid arms. Older but solid will be interesting if they start moving arms up soon or what. They started with RP but SP not really yet,prolly waiting until guys hit there innings limit

Before few guys complain-they are gonna start shutting guys down early(Cabrera,Garrett,Holloway,Vallimont,Gallen,Si xto) due to innings limits. I have heard they might stagger them but they will be shut down before end of the season. Reason they are taking time with Pablo is #1 he has a innings limit and #2 when they shutdown Gallen/Hernandez/Sandy they can just have Pablo take the spot-no point in rushing him back

[fish16]

Nasim Nunez, very very early, but .323 average so far with a .421 OBP. fish16 and I had a discussion about slap hitters, and comparing him to Dee Gordon, perhaps early indications that Nunez will take walks? If so, could be a very exciting prospect if his defense is all we're being told it is.

I'd love to be wrong about Nunez. I just typically dont like drafting guys without any power likely to ever develop but the returns have been really positive with him. If he can take walks consistently that already puts his bat above Dee's. That was my least favorite thing about Dee and just 0 power guys in general. They have limited potential. But again, the returns have been great so far and i'd love for him to continue to prove me wrong.

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Edward Cabrera should be a top 100 guy at the end of this year or in the midseason lists. We should have a number of guys on top 100 lists. Diaz, Sixto, Garrett, Rogers, Cabrera, maybe Monte.