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  • #46
    11:45am: Kovacevic says the Mariners acquire Wilson and Ian Snell for Clement, Ronny Cedeno, Aaron Pribanic, Brett Lorin and Nathan Adcock.
    Done deal.

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    • #47
      Solid deal for the Pirates
      CSBC Commish

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      • #48
        Solid??? Great deal for Pittsburgh

        Got rid of Wilson who they were gonna give away last year and a pitcher who they put in AAA for a C/1B,replacement SS and 3 pitchers

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        • #49
          But getting Ronny Cedeno is epic fail for the Pirates.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by tjfla View Post
            Solid??? Great deal for Pittsburgh

            Got rid of Wilson who they were gonna give away last year and a pitcher who they put in AAA for a C/1B,replacement SS and 3 pitchers

            I try to keep my inner pirate fan subdued...
            CSBC Commish

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            • #51
              I thought Seattle were sellers and it makes even less sense since they are offering up Washburn.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by MiamiHomer View Post
                I thought Seattle were sellers and it makes even less sense since they are offering up Washburn.
                With this trade, in conjunction with Beltre coming back in a week, it looks like the M's are buyers. Washburn is staying put.

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                • #53
                  Got me looks like buyers. Unless they are gonna deal Washburn for ML ready guys? Could always try to get a Mat Gamel and stuff for him from Milwaukee

                  Jack Wilson new SS
                  Ian Snell replaces Washburn in rotation?

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                  • #54
                    Jack Wilson and Ian Snell are going to be around for more than this year. Just because they were buying for next year doesn't mean they won't be selling this year. Not saying they'll do one or the other, but just saying.

                    And clement is rather overrated. He's good but not great and he loses a lot of value if he can't stay behind the plate. I don't really know about the pitchers who got sent over but cendeno is nothing special either. Couple babip inflated AAA stints and guy got overrated big.

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                    • #55
                      12:03pm: Gordon Edes and Tim Brown of Yahoo report that the Phillies appear to be "on the verge" of acquiring Cliff Lee from the Indians for Carrasco, Knapp and at least two of Donald, Marson and Michael Taylor.
                      I hate seeing them get even better.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by nny View Post
                        Jack Wilson and Ian Snell are going to be around for more than this year. Just because they were buying for next year doesn't mean they won't be selling this year. Not saying they'll do one or the other, but just saying.

                        And clement is rather overrated. He's good but not great and he loses a lot of value if he can't stay behind the plate. I don't really know about the pitchers who got sent over but cendeno is nothing special either. Couple babip inflated AAA stints and guy got overrated big.
                        They got a good deal tho. Clement can play 1B and backup Doumit. Cedeno backup 2B/SS and about 5mil cheaper than Wilson and 3 young arms.

                        Then they still got Freddy Sanchez to deal.

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                        • #57
                          Cedeno is an absolute abortion. He should not be viewed as any kind of get for Pirates. He is worse than Bonifacio.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by MiamiHomer View Post
                            I hate seeing them get even better.
                            Heard it might be all 3 just in case Jason Knapp's shoulder is worse than they thought
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                            Originally posted by Matt Wilson View Post
                            Cedeno is an absolute abortion. He should not be viewed as any kind of get for Pirates. He is worse than Bonifacio.
                            It is not like he is gonna be the Starting SS of a Playoff team,its Pittsburgh. Would rather have a Ronny Cedeno then a Luis Cruz,Ramon Vasquez, or Brian Bixler.

                            They will let him play there this year and Argenis Diaz will be ready next year
                            Last edited by tjfla; 07-29-2009, 01:15 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged

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                            • #59
                              and clement playing 1b really drops his value

                              I don't know anything about the 3 pitchers sent but

                              Jack Wilson is a good SS because he's one of the best defensive SS's and it's easily been shown that Z is building a defensive first team (and doing it right, unlike Beinfest)

                              and Snell might fall on his face again but guy has a lot of talent

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                              • #60
                                12:28pm: Kovacevic hears that the Pirates are contributing a "significant amount" of cash in the deal.
                                Add that.
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                                12:29pm: Joel Sherman of the New York Post hears that the two sides are "very close" to completing a deal.
                                Concerning the Phillies-Indians.
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                                12:38pm: MLB.com's Todd Zolecki hears that Ben Francisco would also come to Philly in the possible deal.
                                Add on to Lee rumors.
                                Last edited by MiamiHomer; 07-29-2009, 01:40 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged

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