2011 MLB Season Game Thread: June

[Valid]

Yeah I just noticed that...

[Bobbob1313]

Understood, but building a team around someone who hasn't even set foot into the majors yet?

It's better than building around someone like Ryan Braun, who plays horrible defense, is about to turn 28, and is under contract for a guaranteed $141.5 million over the next 9 years.

[Mainge]

Picking an unproven player is not better than picking one of the best hitters in the game.

[Ramp]

I like how Miguel Cabrera wasn't picked

[MiamiHomer]

I don't really understand the parameters of the draft. Are they just taking the player for their skills or are they including contract status, age, ect.

[Ramp]

there are none

[Bobbob1313]

Picking an unproven player is not better than picking one of the best hitters in the game.

Ryan Braun has been, according to UZR, one of, and very likely, the worst defensive players in all of baseball since he came into the league. He has cost his teams 52 runs in about 4 full seasons. He is under contract until his 37th birthday. He's probably going to have to switch to 1B once Fielder leaves.

He's probably one of the 25 best everyday players in the league right now, but probably towards the bottom of that list. That's not a guy you pay $113 million for his age 30-37 seasons.

I honestly think I'd take my chances with guys like Trout and Harper, who are unbelievably young, skilled, performing, and project to be very good defensive players, than a guy like Braun, whose ceiling is basically a 6 win player.

At the worst, they're no worse picks than Braun, in my opinion, and there's probably a dozen players in the league who weren't selected that I'd take over Braun.

[Madman81]

Barry Larkin building around a guy who is already 34.

Cmon Barry.

[Mainge]

I don't think contracts should be taken into consideration. In a fantasy world where all the players are available to be taken, I'm not getting Milwaukee's contract.

And yeah, you take a top 25 player before you take an unproven one. If you want to argue taking them over a marginal player or reliever (Ramos and Feliz) fine, but not Braun.

[DropkickAlex]

Contracts weren't taken into account however doesn't explain how Matt Kemp, Jay Bruce, Ryan Zimmerman, Miguel Cabrera, Adrian Gonzalez and hell even Hosmer didn't get picked over Ramos.

Tommy Hanson and Jered Weaver are also better picks if you're going the Pitcher route.
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I also think this would be a cool idea if we did a fantasy draft among the members here on the board and then do a vote after, or has that been done before and failed?

Or is it just a bad idea all together?

[Mainge]

I would be down.

[Bobbob1313]

I don't see the point in doing this if you aren't taking contracts into account.

How many teams/rounds? I'd be interested.

[MiamiHomer]

2011 NATIONAL LEAGUE ALL-STAR BALLOTING (as of May 31)

CATCHER
Buster Posey, Giants: 785,314
Brian McCann, Braves: 633,987
Yadier Molina, Cardinals: 595,576
Carlos Ruiz, Phillies: 354,680
Ramon Hernandez, Reds: 350,771

FIRST BASE
Albert Pujols, Cardinals: 988,784
Joey Votto, Reds: 806,346
Prince Fielder, Brewers: 540,269
Ryan Howard, Phillies: 521,220
Freddie Freeman, Braves: 200,886

SECOND BASE
Brandon Phillips, Reds: 837,778
Rickie Weeks, Brewers: 562,071
Chase Utley, Phillies: 561,585
Dan Uggla, Braves: 465,219
Freddy Sanchez, Giants: 347,713

THIRD BASE
Placido Polanco, Phillies: 724,724
Chipper Jones, Braves: 540,168
Pablo Sandoval, Giants: 522,037
David Wright, Mets: 500,200
Scott Rolen, Reds: 370,271

SHORTSTOP
Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies: 975,777
Jimmy Rollins, Phillies: 454,782
Jose Reyes, Mets: 408,699
Alex Gonzalez, Braves: 328,021
Stephen Drew, Diamondbacks: 303,811

OUTFIELD
Ryan Braun, Brewers: 971,809
Matt Holliday, Cardinals: 927,778
Lance Berkman, Cardinals: 872,434
Andre Ethier, Dodgers: 776,971
Matt Kemp, Dodgers: 549,215
Jason Heyward, Braves: 484,291
Shane Victorino, Phillies: 476,644
Carlos Beltran, Mets: 389,561
Alfonso Soriano, Cubs: 354,231
Justin Upton, Diamondbacks: 338,487
Carlos Gonzalez, Rockies: 337,728
Jay Bruce, Reds: 337,380
Raul Ibanez, Phillies: 294,294
Drew Stubbs, Reds: 292,907
Martin Prado, Braves: 284,558

Early results reveal tight NL All-Star voting

[Ramp]

Hammer.

[TealMonster08]

I don't see the point in doing this if you aren't taking contracts into account.

How many teams/rounds? I'd be interested.

I would also be interested. I think you have to take contracts into account.