August 2019 Game Thread

[Namaste]

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I agree with this.

We don’t have enough posters at this forum to shit all over Lee every time he says something quirky.

Lee is not Madaawg.

[Nick]

I agree with this.

We don’t have enough posters at this forum to shit all over Lee every time he says something quirky.

Lee is not Madaawg.

Agreed, although I know I've been tough on Lee in the past, I'm gonna try to be better.

[Erick]

Sandy Alcantara is so frustrating, because every once in a while he shows you what he could be, and it looks like tonight could be one of those nights.

Yes, I’ve said this a lot too. He has starts where he looks like a seasoned veteran and then he has starts where he can’t find the strike zone and he’s at 100 pitches in the 5th inning.

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Agreed, although I know I've been tough on Lee in the past, I'm gonna try to be better.

I don’t mind Lee either to be honest. He’s like our Skip Bayless.

[Nick]

Damn, Diaz not running hard and then taking too big of a turn at 1st. Bout as bad as baserunning can be.

[Namaste]

Yup. Stunningly bad base running

[Lee Stone]

Tip of the hat to Nick Anderson, Zac Gallen and Sergio Romo since departing. Five scoreless inning each for Zac and Nick. 5 2/3 and just a single run for Romo. Vallimont also shined in a start vs Jupiter.

On the offensive side, Chisholm, L Diaz and J Sanchez all with OPS of well over .900 since joining the system.

My only heartache is Gallen's potential to excel over the next several years. I would have preferred to part with Caleb or Sandy in that deal, although Arizona apparently insisted on Gallen. According to Diamondbacks announcers, team management was blown away over Gallen's AAA performance this season.

On Diaz lack of 1) hustle and 2) awareness, that's a shame to see. He should be keeping an eye on Harold Ramirez, Jon Berti, and Alfaro in the former regard - they always run like hell. My guess is that Diaz will learn from it, despite the fact that he should have known better already.

[Lee Stone]

Yes, I’ve said this a lot too. He has starts where he looks like a seasoned veteran and then he has starts where he can’t find the strike zone and he’s at 100 pitches in the 5th inning.

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I don’t mind Lee either to be honest. He’s like our Skip Bayless.

You may be on to something with this Bayless thing. He seems to think he knows better than anyone else. Perhaps I'm a dipshit too.

[tjfla]

I know some people were asking about the Humberto Mejia scouting report well its up at Pipeline

Scouting grades: Fastball: 55 | Curveball: 55 | Changeup: 50 | Control: 55 | Overall: 40

The Marlins spent a modest $1.8 million on their 2013 international class, including $50,000 to sign Mejia out of Panama. He has emerged as the best prospect from that crop despite shoulder issues that delayed his pro debut until 2015 and cost him the entire 2017 season. He finally reached full-season ball in 2019 and earned a promotion to Class A Advanced in late June.

Mejia currently works at 90-93 mph and touches 95 with a fastball that could add more velocity as he continues to add strength to his 6-foot-3 frame. He gets good depth on a curveball that has allowed him to dominate right-handers at the lower levels of the Minors. He also shows some aptitude for throwing a changeup.

Mejia has pounded the strike zone ever since he turned pro. His biggest issue is staying healthy, and he went on the injured list again in July with what the club described as mild soreness. If he can improve his durability, he could become a back-of-the-rotation starter.

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Jeff and his team spent 1.8 million on ALL players in 2013 while in 2019 we spent 2.8 million on 1

[Erick]

Tip of the hat to Nick Anderson, Zac Gallen and Sergio Romo since departing. Five scoreless inning each for Zac and Nick. 5 2/3 and just a single run for Romo. Vallimont also shined in a start vs Jupiter.

On the offensive side, Chisholm, L Diaz and J Sanchez all with OPS of well over .900 since joining the system.

My only heartache is Gallen's potential to excel over the next several years. I would have preferred to part with Caleb or Sandy in that deal, although Arizona apparently insisted on Gallen. According to Diamondbacks announcers, team management was blown away over Gallen's AAA performance this season.

On Diaz lack of 1) hustle and 2) awareness, that's a shame to see. He should be keeping an eye on Harold Ramirez, Jon Berti, and Alfaro in the former regard - they always run like hell. My guess is that Diaz will learn from it, despite the fact that he should have known better already.

So, you like Gallen more than Sandy and Caleb?

[Lee Stone]

So, you like Gallen more than Sandy and Caleb?

I do ... enough that he is the last pitcher I would have dealt. His AAA season, in a league dominated by hitting, was unprecedented for a Marlin. He showed that his stuff worked in the NL too.

[tjfla]

So, you like Gallen more than Sandy and Caleb?

I wish Lee was here when we made the Ozuna deal. Still remember the posts about the crap value we got for Ozuna.

Only 1 who didn't shit on Gallen was fish16 and Castano got shit on by everyone. 2 trades and we will likely get 8 guys on the 40 man roster/ML roster out of them

Brinson 4th OF
Sierra 4th OF/26th Man
Harrison Starting OF
Diaz Starting 2B
Yamamoto #5 SP
Sandy #3 SP
Jazz Starting SS
Castano LH who can SP/LR/LOOGY

http://soflamarlins.com/showthread.p...ht=ozuna+trade

Most comparsions for Gallen were Dan Straily and others in system we have just like him!!

With Stanton trade

Guzman ML Setup/CL
Jose Devers No clue yet?

[lou]

I wish Lee was here when we made the Ozuna deal. Still remember the posts about the crap value we got for Ozuna.

Only 1 who didn't shit on Gallen was fish16 and Castano got shit on by everyone. 2 trades and we will likely get 8 guys on the 40 man roster/ML roster out of them

Brinson 4th OF
Sierra 4th OF/26th Man
Harrison Starting OF
Diaz Starting 2B
Yamamoto #5 SP
Sandy #3 SP
Jazz Starting SS
Castano LH who can SP/LR/LOOGY

http://soflamarlins.com/showthread.p...ht=ozuna+trade

Most comparsions for Gallen were Dan Straily and others in system we have just like him!!

With Stanton trade

Guzman ML Setup/CL
Jose Devers No clue yet?

Not to toot my own horn, but I didn't shit on the Ozuna deal or Stanton deal.

But I am still in the top 1% of enraged at that other one.

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Also I think those Brinson, Sierra, Harrison, Yamamoto, and Sandy projections are generous, even if they do have some positives among them. I'll take 1 good backup OF and Sandy being solid in whatever role he falls.

[tjfla]

Not to toot my own horn, but I didn't shit on the Ozuna deal or Stanton deal.

But I am still in the top 1% of enraged at that other one.

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Also I think those Brinson, Sierra, Harrison, Yamamoto, and Sandy projections are generous, even if they do have some positives among them. I'll take 1 good backup OF and Sandy being solid in whatever role he falls.

Well projections for 2020

Start of 2020
C-Alfaro/Wallach
1B-Cooper/FA
2B-Diaz
SS-Rojas/Berti
3B-BA
LF-Ramirez
CF-Harrison/Brinson/Sierra
RF-FA

SP
Caleb
Sandy
Pablo
Urena? FA?
Yamamoto

RP
Quijada
Jarlin
Elieser
Brice
Steck
Stanek

2 bats and 3 arms "open" with Diaz/Jazz/Jesus/Dean and Sixto/Neidert/Dugger/Kinley/Tayron/Conley/Guzman/Castano/Dylan Lee/Brigham on 40 man

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By Aug 1 2020

C-Alfaro/Wallach
1B-Cooper/Diaz
2B-Diaz
SS-Jazz/Berti
3B-BA
LF-Ramirez
CF-Harrison/Brinson/Sierra
RF-Jesus

SP
Caleb
Sandy
Pablo
Sixto
Yamamoto

RP
Quijada
Jarlin
Elieser
Castano? Lee? Vesia?
Steck
Guzman

Urena/Stanek/Brice/Steck/Rojas/FA all on trade block(NOT saying traded but on block) I could see Caleb on block too if the market is as hot as this year

Marlins couldn't believe how hot the pitching market was this deadline(which is why they made trades). They were asking for crazy stuff and unlike 2 years ago where teams pretty much laughed at them teams were like its option 2 or 3 if can't get stuff done

Had a few deals for Caleb Smith in multi player packages but never got done. NYM/TB/Cubs/Arizona/NYY all talked with us on him

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Tip of the hat to Nick Anderson, Zac Gallen and Sergio Romo since departing. Five scoreless inning each for Zac and Nick. 5 2/3 and just a single run for Romo. Vallimont also shined in a start vs Jupiter.

On the offensive side, Chisholm, L Diaz and J Sanchez all with OPS of well over .900 since joining the system.

My only heartache is Gallen's potential to excel over the next several years. I would have preferred to part with Caleb or Sandy in that deal, although Arizona apparently insisted on Gallen. According to Diamondbacks announcers, team management was blown away over Gallen's AAA performance this season.

On Diaz lack of 1) hustle and 2) awareness, that's a shame to see. He should be keeping an eye on Harold Ramirez, Jon Berti, and Alfaro in the former regard - they always run like hell. My guess is that Diaz will learn from it, despite the fact that he should have known better already.

No clue about this BUT I do know Marlins tried to trade Caleb Smith there in a multi player package with Jazz and Arizona wanted Gallen instead

[fish16]

I wish Lee was here when we made the Ozuna deal. Still remember the posts about the crap value we got for Ozuna.

Only 1 who didn't shit on Gallen was fish16 and Castano got shit on by everyone. 2 trades and we will likely get 8 guys on the 40 man roster/ML roster out of them

Brinson 4th OF
Sierra 4th OF/26th Man
Harrison Starting OF
Diaz Starting 2B
Yamamoto #5 SP
Sandy #3 SP
Jazz Starting SS
Castano LH who can SP/LR/LOOGY

http://soflamarlins.com/showthread.p...ht=ozuna+trade

Most comparsions for Gallen were Dan Straily and others in system we have just like him!!

With Stanton trade

Guzman ML Setup/CL
Jose Devers No clue yet?

Ya i liked gallen and i even like Alcantara, i just wanted a more safe guy as the lead prospect in that deal for the exact reasons that alcantara is showing: he is inconsistent. I like him but i wanted flaherty or weaver. I think we did really good though on every trade other than yelich. I wish we dealt him to a team like the braves like he was rumored to go to.

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btw, Anderson is now above .800 OPS for the year after a dreadful start. considering our OF depth now and the complete lack of 3b options within the system, they need to park his ass at 3b for the next 4 years. He reminds me a ton of mike lowell with less defense. Just a consistent, steady guy who wont blow you away with 40 hr's but is just a good solid 3b with power and tons of doubles. He's our best 3b since lowell.

[Nick]

I wish Lee was here when we made the Ozuna deal. Still remember the posts about the crap value we got for Ozuna.

Only 1 who didn't shit on Gallen was fish16 and Castano got shit on by everyone. 2 trades and we will likely get 8 guys on the 40 man roster/ML roster out of them

Brinson 4th OF
Sierra 4th OF/26th Man
Harrison Starting OF
Diaz Starting 2B
Yamamoto #5 SP
Sandy #3 SP
Jazz Starting SS
Castano LH who can SP/LR/LOOGY

http://soflamarlins.com/showthread.p...ht=ozuna+trade

Most comparsions for Gallen were Dan Straily and others in system we have just like him!!

With Stanton trade

Guzman ML Setup/CL
Jose Devers No clue yet?

To be fair to those that shat on that trade (myself included) Sierra and Alcantara pretty much turned out how I would've expected so far. I thought the key factor on whether that trade would be a success would be if Alcantara turned into the pitcher scouts thought he could be. (still up in the air) Gallen was labeled as a pretty safe 4-5 guy, and as recent as April this year that was still the case. I don't think many people, even the folks that were fans of that trade saw Gallen's giant step forward this year coming.

Gotta be impressed with what Castano's done the last couple of starts, but I still think we're along way from penciling him in as a contributor at the major league level.