May Game Thread

[tjfla]

Desclafanj and Pablo Lopez were not at all the type of prospects I’m talking about not are they the types of guys you could get for a guy like Castro and especially Rojas. That’s some revisionist history

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Castillo is a fair enough guy to fit your point though. Off the top of my head he was the Casey McGhee to the giants return, right?

Ya Desco was on NO ONEs list and Pablo Lopez wasn't even in the deal until 5 mins before. Deal was for Max Provse and Mike Hill asked for Lopez and Schiraldi instead. Neither were Top 20 prospects

Castillo was closer prospect who came with Kendry Flores

[fish16]

I do recall being ecstatic about the McGehee trade, but maybe that was just because he was so bad that I was happy to get anything.

I still love that we had an entire campaign around him called hits McGehee

[tjfla]

Agreed, I just am very skeptical as to who will be giving us ifa money for some of these guys. Castro I could see as an alternative to giving up a prospect because of his down year, I just have a very hard time seeing anyone giving up anything for Rojas

Proll about 12-15 teams would rather give up IFA than prospects. The issue is teams we deal with usually rather give up the prospects. I could see Walker to Philly for 500K and some A ball prospect

[gustavopim]

I still love that we had an entire campaign around him called hits McGehee

to be honest my first season here was 2014 and Hits McGehee was fricking fun. He could hit, but just hit into DPs. He's a great person for all I know.

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I still love that we had an entire campaign around him called hits McGehee

to be honest my first season here was 2014 and Hits McGehee was fricking fun. He could hit, but just hit into DPs. He's a great person for all I know.

[fish16]

ya he gave up the power he had in milwaukee in order to make more contact. he was a nice dude, just got sad when we brought him back the second season and he was horrendous.

[Nick]

It was just so clear that year, that his good Batting Average was mostly smoke and mirrors. Even at the end of the season his numbers were not great, and the # of DPs was staggering.

[Lee Stone]

It was just so clear that year, that his good Batting Average was mostly smoke and mirrors. Even at the end of the season his numbers were not great, and the # of DPs was staggering.

And when it comes to hitting into DP's, the Marlins are expert. Prado, Rojas, and Castro have magic bats with a runner on first. I think each of them has led the majors in producing double outs in recent years.

[fish16]

It was just so clear that year, that his good Batting Average was mostly smoke and mirrors. Even at the end of the season his numbers were not great, and the # of DPs was staggering.

yup, in an era where everyone is emphasizing launch angle, either he decided or the marlins decided to have him say fuck hitting for power, lets get some ground balls and contact out of that bat.

[Erick]

Agreed, I just am very skeptical as to who will be giving us ifa money for some of these guys. Castro I could see as an alternative to giving up a prospect because of his down year, I just have a very hard time seeing anyone giving up anything for Rojas

For what it’s worth, the Rays didn’t get anything for Romo last year at the deadline either so I don’t know what his trade value is going to be. I’ve seen rumors of the Marlins wanting to extend him another year to have him in the pen as a veteran presence. Though I’ve definitely seen more rumors of him being a trade candidate. I’m just surprised the Rays didn’t trade him last season. Makes me think his value isn’t great, probably because of his age.

[Nick]

For what it’s worth, the Rays didn’t get anything for Romo last year at the deadline either so I don’t know what his trade value is going to be. I’ve seen rumors of the Marlins wanting to extend him another year to have him in the pen as a veteran presence. Though I’ve definitely seen more rumors of him being a trade candidate. I’m just surprised the Rays didn’t trade him last season. Makes me think his value isn’t great, probably because of his age.

Were they not in the playoff race? I would think that might've had something to do with it. They finished with 90 wins.

[fish16]

For what it’s worth, the Rays didn’t get anything for Romo last year at the deadline either so I don’t know what his trade value is going to be. I’ve seen rumors of the Marlins wanting to extend him another year to have him in the pen as a veteran presence. Though I’ve definitely seen more rumors of him being a trade candidate. I’m just surprised the Rays didn’t trade him last season. Makes me think his value isn’t great, probably because of his age.

The rays were trying to contend last year. They finished with 87 wins i believe, didnt they? Im not sure what they were around the deadline but were they trying to be sellers around the deadline last year? I still think so long as he doesnt have a barraclough style blow up right before the deadline that he actually does have some bit of value either in terms of a mid level prospect or a fairly decent amount of IFA cash.

I used to not like the IFA cash in deals but if they are going to continue to actually focus and invest in that market like they have over the last 2 years im all for it. You never know what you can get for cheap in that market.

Edit- nick says 90 so even more wins. I feel like they might have had a huge run after the deadline last year though so im really not sure what their position at the deadline was.

[rmc523]

The rays were trying to contend last year. They finished with 87 wins i believe, didnt they? Im not sure what they were around the deadline but were they trying to be sellers around the deadline last year? I still think so long as he doesnt have a barraclough style blow up right before the deadline that he actually does have some bit of value either in terms of a mid level prospect or a fairly decent amount of IFA cash.

I used to not like the IFA cash in deals but if they are going to continue to actually focus and invest in that market like they have over the last 2 years im all for it. You never know what you can get for cheap in that market.

Edit- nick says 90 so even more wins. I feel like they might have had a huge run after the deadline last year though so im really not sure what their position at the deadline was.

I don't remember their position at the deadline, but I do recall reading about several trades they made that appeared as though they were waving the white flag, and then they went on a crazy run.

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Question about IFA money to anyone that may know.

Any money we'd acquire now would be for which signing period? I can't imagine it'd be for the '18-19 period that's about to end in 2 weeks, right? It'd have to be for the '19-20 period, right?

[fish16]

I don't remember their position at the deadline, but I do recall reading about several trades they made that appeared as though they were waving the white flag, and then they went on a crazy run.

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Question about IFA money to anyone that may know.

Any money we'd acquire now would be for which signing period? I can't imagine it'd be for the '18-19 period that's about to end in 2 weeks, right? It'd have to be for the '19-20 period, right?

Yes i believe so, and any money we acquire will likely be after the draft and after the end of this current period anyways. And i could be wrong but I feel like some of those trades you're referring to might have been in the beginning of the year before the year began. Wasn't there some outrage over them trading dickerson and others only for them to come out and be even better at the end of the year?

[rmc523]

Yes i believe so, and any money we acquire will likely be after the draft and after the end of this current period anyways. And i could be wrong but I feel like some of those trades you're referring to might have been in the beginning of the year before the year began. Wasn't there some outrage over them trading dickerson and others only for them to come out and be even better at the end of the year?

Yeah, that's why I said I wasn't sure of their position at the deadline specifically. I know they made moves throughout the season, so you're right, it may have been earlier in the season.

[Erick]

Were they not in the playoff race? I would think that might've had something to do with it. They finished with 90 wins.

They traded Chris Archer and Nathan Eovaldi.

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They traded Chris Archer and Nathan Eovaldi.

To add to this, they weren’t playing for the short-term and Romo was a rental so it’s odd they couldn’t trade him. They got hot late using openers, etc., and, despite their 90 wins, were never truly a playoff contender because the Red Sox and Yankees were so good.