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  • Cloyd finally gone too. I’d guess Gallen and another flier veteran bullpen arm like maybe burnett

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    • Originally posted by fish16 View Post
      Cloyd finally gone too. I’d guess Gallen and another flier veteran bullpen arm like maybe burnett
      In all honesty, how could they ever take Gallen or anyone else at New Orleans over Richards?

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      • Forgot about Richards, he should get the next chance actually especially if there is not a guaranteed rotation spot up here

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        Don’t want Gallen wasting development time coming up here out of the bullpeb

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        • @CraigMish
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          As the Tazawa chapter closes here is my final sad footnote. I could not find a single source that knew of any other team outside of the Marlins offering him a two year deal in 2017.

          and let's not forget the $13 million that we paid Volquez to get rid of him

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          • Jeffrey loria is an absolute moron and it’s hard to believe he’s not homeless let alone filthy rich

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            • Originally posted by gustavopim View Post
              @CraigMish
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              As the Tazawa chapter closes here is my final sad footnote. I could not find a single source that knew of any other team outside of the Marlins offering him a two year deal in 2017.

              and let's not forget the $13 million that we paid Volquez to get rid of him
              I think we did get some of the Volquez money through insurance, though. But still, your point stands, and I agree it was stupid.

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              • One relief option is out: Dustin McGowan was released, per Frisaro. He hadn't even made it out of extended spring training.

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                • Think it might be conley and Richards

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                  • Originally posted by fish16 View Post
                    Think it might be conley and Richards
                    I can see putting Conley in the pen, but I doubt they call up Richards unless it's to start.

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                    • @DaniAlvarez_16
                      Source: #Marlins are calling up Dillon Peters and Adam Conley.

                      There we go

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                      • Conley makes sense but calling peters back up isn’t smart. Yet more reasons why they fucked up by not adding a few veteran replacement arms for the bullpen so that we don’t have to keep ruining these guys development

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                        • Peters will be 26 in August. Time to let him sink or swim. Don't know why they waste Richards starts in AAA when he may prove to be the best starter.

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                          • With Meyer, Richards, Gallen, Alcantara, and possibly Lopez on a promotion, the Baby Cakes still have the best rotation in all of AAA.

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                            • Originally posted by fish16 View Post
                              Conley makes sense but calling peters back up isn’t smart. Yet more reasons why they fucked up by not adding a few veteran replacement arms for the bullpen so that we don’t have to keep ruining these guys development
                              They do have Jumbo Diaz, J. Turner, S. Burnett, and kept Despaigne, Tazawa, and Ziegler to start the year. I don't think that criticism is warranted when they also had Barraclough, Steckenrider, Wittgren, apparently Tayron, etc. needing spots. If anything, they should have signed another SP, which is basically eating all of Peters and Richards starts this year which would have been nice.

                              Not sure this is ruining Peters. He is 25 and is he ever going to be a playoff rotation starter? If not, maybe the bullpen is a good move for him. I think they do need to develop consistent lefty relievers.

                              In any event, I like the idea of Garcia, Conley, and Peters as the lefty crew, Steckenrider, Wittgren, and Tayron as the RHP crew, and at some point Guzman/Alcantara is dropped on the top and Merandy/Elisier/Gallen/Richards/Lopez/Meyer/whoever takes the 8th spot. That could be a pretty great bullpen which is controlled through 2022+, excepting only Conley who is after 2021. There is plenty of depth in AA/AAA with what they have to account for injuries, reliever volatility, or make deadline trades next few years. This could be a really good situation.

                              I think it's pretty obvious watching these guys Caleb Smith and Jose Urena are the only real hopes for developing #3/4 SP with the MLB squad (solid FIPs). Gallen, Meyer, Alcantara, Richards, Neidert, and P. Lopez are all still starting in AAA/AA (I think Merandy and Brigham are clearly RP so excluding). Plenty of guys there if Peters is going to be a reliever moving forward. Ultimately, they just need 3 SP out of that group of 8 or so, as Realmuto/Bour/Straily/Castro/Barraclough can find the 4th one, they can add a pricy top end starter in 2020 as the veteran piece, and they should have depth with Rogers/Garret/E.Cabrera/2018 # 1 pick/others in the upper minors in 3 years.

                              I'm digging the pitching situation, provided they do take a college SP in the draft and get at least another Niedert and Merandy in the upcoming trades.

                              The problem is Brinson/Monte/Diaz/Sierra are cumulatively terrible. Hopefully that changes soon.

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                              • Lou, I think you're selling low on Peters. Although he had ups and downs last September, he had three super quality starts out of five. Even this year, he put up three of six. Given his minor league track record, I think he becomes a solid starter for the next several years.

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