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  • If it were up to me, Avi would’ve never been brought back. Platoon DLC/Sanchez, boom Edwards can play every day.

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    • Fwiw, Edwards played SS in his senior year at North Broward Prep.

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      • Originally posted by fish16 View Post
        wendle starting yet again today. Not sure where lou was getting the idea of him only starting 2 times a week now, but they have started him almost every single game since the all star break. Berti should be the every day SS.
        Just do the math. And they haven't had Bell, Burger, Garcia, and Jazz since the ASB until a day ago.

        Arraez, Bell, Burger (said may play some 2B to note), and Soler are never coming out. Yuli picks up off days for them the 1-2 times it will happen this month. Jazz and Sanchez are easy 4+ a week vs RHP. DLC and Garcia will take all the lefty games. DLC/Garcia platoon the other OF spot against right handers, and maybe Yuli sneaks in an extra 1B/DH start here and there with Soler going to LF every other week. Berti is not needed anywhere above so he can just stay at SS for better or worse. He's going to get the lion's share at SS with Wendle getting 2 right handers a week.

        Starts per 6 day week

        Fortes 3 / Stallings 3
        Bell 6
        Arraez 6
        Berti 4 / Wendle 2
        Burger 6
        DLC 3 / Garcia 3
        Jazz 4 / DLC 2
        Sanchez 4 / Garcia 2
        Soler 6
        + Yuli picking off random off days 2-3 days a week as needed.


        If Wendle plays more, it means Garcia sucks and the analytics catch up to Yuli (expected slash .243/.303/.326). BTW, Garcia has an expected slash of .241/.304/.438. They aren't doing shit with him when the data says that + the money.

        Wendle .231/.271/.320 and Hampson .248/.319/.339 expected slashes. I think you might be right about Hampson unless Joey immediately starts showing some elite defense or starts hitting right handers to a low 600 OPS again.
        Last edited by lou; 08-03-2023, 11:16 AM. Reason: clarification edits

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        • Originally posted by fish16 View Post

          Edwards can play SS. He might not be the best SS defensively, but he has plenty of experience. That's just not true. Wendle brings nothing.
          This is like saying Jazz is a SS. No evaluator thinks he can play SS. If he could play SS, he'd be up long ago IMO.

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          • Originally posted by lou View Post

            This is like saying Jazz is a SS. No evaluator thinks he can play SS. If he could play SS, he'd be up long ago IMO.
            Jazz had 60 errors in 200 minor league games at SS. Edwards had 13 in 84 career games at SS. The questions have been about his arm, and yet they are playing him at 3b in AAA the last week.

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            • brazoban gone and up comes Smeltzer who has a 6 ERA and a 1.6 WHIP in AAA. How is that our best option? I get he is going to come up here just for today and get DFA'd, but we dont have a single other guy on the 40 man capable of coming up for some innings if needed today?

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              • this juggernaut lineup against cueto seems like a disaster waiting to happen but hopefully cueto will continue to surprise.

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                • dont love the way arraez is running today at all

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                  • If ever there was a case of immediate repercussions of not making a move are made clear it's this game. Marlins not trading for Lorenzen, Cueto still in the rotation because of it.

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                    • Originally posted by Nick View Post
                      If ever there was a case of immediate repercussions of not making a move are made clear it's this game. Marlins not trading for Lorenzen, Cueto still in the rotation because of it.
                      im honestly fine with cueto as the 5th starter. never really made sense to give up another prospect for a rental when he rotation is already our strength. Now, they should have used that prospect to go get a SS or C but that's another discussion. I think Cueto is fine as the 5th guy and we desperately need eury back already. The fact they are going to trot Hoeing or Castano out there saturday is so ridiculous at this point. Cueto has been so much better than we could have possibly imagined when he came back. He works quick, pitches to contact, can give you 5-6 innings with 2-4 runs and keep you in ballgames. he's just way too prone to home runs. Since he's been back though its up to 18 innings and 7 ER's, 4 walks, 18 k's. that's about as much as you can ask for out of a 5th starter.

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                      • all wendle does is ground out weakly to either the SS or 2b. it is absurd at this point. not even good at bats.

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                        • wendle hasnt had an extra base hit or more than 1 hit in a game since July 9th. He's walked twice in that span. Laughably non competitive at bats. also 0 for his last 26 at bats.

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                          • cueto has barely given up any hits other than hr's since he's come back. 9 hits in 19 innings, 3 of which are homers. 12 hits all year, 5 of which are homers.

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                            • Bell moves pretty good, Cooper probably barely makes it to 3rd there.

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                              • there we go jazz!

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