2019-2020 Offseason Discussion

[fish16]

can anyone explain why the answer for the draft given this shortened season would be making it just 5 rounds and making everyone else available to sign for just 20k? This seems to make no sense as a solution. i can see shortening the draft given the lack of high school or college season, but 5 rounds seems ridiculously low. I see 15-20 as being about right.

[Nick]

can anyone explain why the answer for the draft given this shortened season would be making it just 5 rounds and making everyone else available to sign for just 20k? This seems to make no sense as a solution. i can see shortening the draft given the lack of high school or college season, but 5 rounds seems ridiculously low. I see 15-20 as being about right.

Owners don't want to spend money.

[fish16]

Owners don't want to spend money.

they dont have to sign guys or use all of their money. 5 rounds seems super short. 10-15 should be minimum

[Erick]

I agree fish16. Feel bad for a bunch of high school and college kids getting screwed by this situation. Been around the game in recent years PA announcing games for a bunch of draft eligible players, and it sucks to see their dreams altered. 5 is super short, at least make it 10.

[tjfla]

Joel Sherman of MLB Network reports that the draft can't be held any later than July, and that the event will try to be held earlier if the season is underway. Baseball can also push back the IFA signing period to January, rather than the usual July 2 starting period.

Draft can't be held after July but in TERRIBLE news. MLB has the option to make the draft this year go from 40 to 5 or 10 Rds and next year from 40 to 20 Rds. YES 5 Rds!!! If that happens just take 6 BPA guys screw $$$

They can sign undrafted players for 20K and most expect HS guys who aren't elite to just go to college

IFA signing in Jan is whatever as most dont do much for July to Jan. Sign Cappe in Jan and just send him to GCL Next Year like the plan was
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can anyone explain why the answer for the draft given this shortened season would be making it just 5 rounds and making everyone else available to sign for just 20k? This seems to make no sense as a solution. i can see shortening the draft given the lack of high school or college season, but 5 rounds seems ridiculously low. I see 15-20 as being about right.

Owners dont wanna spend cash if no season. Also if its 5 Rds it means non elite HS guys that scouts havent seen will just go to college.

Its 20K or little more for unsigned guys

2021 Draft can go from 40 to 20 Rds

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I agree fish16. Feel bad for a bunch of high school and college kids getting screwed by this situation. Been around the game in recent years PA announcing games for a bunch of draft eligible players, and it sucks to see their dreams altered. 5 is super short, at least make it 10.

The reason for 5 I heard is it pretty much means HS guys will go to JC/College(Unless Top 100 types) can reenter next year and gives college guys the option of staying in school. It makes ZERO sense however if u dont wanna go back u can sign for 20K+ which means owners save cash

In other words its gonna look more like a NBA/NFL draft where teams draft on talent and then sign a whole bunch of UDFA but atleast will have 6 picks.

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Kiley explains it the best

Kiley McDaniel
@kileymcd
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Sources: MLB & the MLB Players Association have the framework of an agreement that could be finalized as soon as today. Discussed terms on the draft:

- A draft sometime in July
- Likely 10 rounds, possibly 5
- Bonus deferment: 10% upfront, 45% in July '21, 45% in July '22

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"Smart idea" would be have a 10 Rd draft and teams have the draft pools like normal. Can't spend more than your draft pool # and UDFA have a max signing # too

[emkayseven]

This screws so many kids. Even the ones who get drafted end up with basically no money for years. Many minor leaguers live off their bonuses.

[tjfla]

tj, what is your janitor friend saying about when MLB Opening Day will be?

Rumors of Memorial Day are swirling.

Hope June but all depends on what Trump does. The issue is this social distance crap. Hard to play when they want 10 or less people and team has 26 guys on it

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This screws so many kids. Even the ones who get drafted end up with basically no money for years. Many minor leaguers live off their bonuses.

Pretty much what MLB wants they get talent in system and dont have to pay much. Alot of HS guys have already been telling teams they are going to college and its only been 12 hrs

[Lee Stone]

Given MLB's announced intention to significantly reduce the number of minor league affiliates after 2020, a reduction in the number of draftees was forthcoming under any circumstances, wouldn't you say? I presume there will be growth in Independent leagues to accomodate the wishers and hopers.

https://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2019/11...-teams-near-me

[fish16]

Given MLB's announced intention to significantly reduce the number of minor league affiliates after 2020, a reduction in the number of draftees was forthcoming under any circumstances, wouldn't you say? I presume there will be growth in Independent leagues to accomodate the wishers and hopers.

https://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2019/11...-teams-near-me

yes, but not to this much less. The combination of the ridiculously short 5 rounds and then the restrictions on what guys can earn who dont get drafted and its a pretty bullshit move. I saw a tweet earlier where last year there were like 200-300 players drafted after the 5th round who received higher than a 6 figure signing bonus. The way baseball has treated their minor leaguers has been pretty fucked up.

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on another note i saw a heyman tweet today that the league could use this weird shortened season to experiment with a 14 team playoff. I wouldnt be shocked if we see some improvements combined with a smaller sample size to see us sneak into a playoff spot even though we probably wont be a good team. This is gonna be a weird year but we're still a long time from baseball

[Namaste]

MLB will be playing regular season games by the end of June in some capacity

[fish16]

MLB will be playing regular season games by the end of June in some capacity

i think thats probably on the early side. remember that even once we can start having gatherings of people these players are gonna need at least 3 weeks to ramp up again. i think a 4th of july opening day followed by a 100 game sprint would be pretty cool though.

[Nick]

Yeah I don't think the players are going to get 3 weeks to ramp up. Not like we're going to start up Spring Training again. So it'll have to be backfield stuff, which hopefully they'll get a chance to do prior to the decision of allowing large-scale gatherings again. There's money to be made, players aren't going to get an ideal ramp up to meaningful games.

[fish16]

Yeah I don't think the players are going to get 3 weeks to ramp up. Not like we're going to start up Spring Training again. So it'll have to be backfield stuff, which hopefully they'll get a chance to do prior to the decision of allowing large-scale gatherings again. There's money to be made, players aren't going to get an ideal ramp up to meaningful games.

true, but mlbpa is also super powerful relative to other major sport player unions and i find it hard to believe they will let these guys get 2 weeks or less after what will become 2-3 months of down time. but maybe youre right in that the choice will be to have them able to return to team facilities at some point prior to large scale gatherings being made

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anyone ever play OOTP baseball? Im not a gaming guy but i got it because this quarantine is boring as hell and its actually a pretty damn detailed and awesome game

[Lee Stone]

Marlins Option Monte Harrison, Nick Neidert per MLBTraderumors

Neidert is pretty much a sure thing to log starting time in Miami soon. Harrison? As the team's oldest prospect in top thirty and barely a league average hitter at AAA, his odds don't seem too great.

[Namaste]

Monte Harrison will be getting a lot of starts with the big club this year if we have games