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Originally posted by tjfla View PostI just get a kick out of it when guys like Frisaro mentions stuff 12 hrs after everyone else has heard it
No worries I wont mention anything about Ozuna until it happens(Dont wanna be beyond obnoxious)
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We are they just were talking-they asked for Austin Hays but were told maybe/not likely. More likely centerpiece is Cedric Mullins/Tanner Scott with Yefry Ramirez/Alex Wells/Matthias Dietz as other pieces
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Yelich is getting massive amounts of hits
Braves are still favorites because they will take Prado and most of his contract. However they would like a top bat in deal which Atlanta doesn't really have
They are dealing with Ozuna/Straily/Starlin Castro.Ziegler more right now
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I still don't like the idea of trading Yelich either, especially if we have to attach Prado to him and lessen the return.
Originally posted by fauowls44 View PostMets signed Swarzak to a 2 year $14 million deal. Ziegler for 1 year $9 million doesn’t look so bad.
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Originally posted by rmc523 View PostYou're missing the point about the obnoxious things - we don't mind the rumors, it's the "I told you so, I said this X days ago, etc."
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I still don't like the idea of trading Yelich either, especially if we have to attach Prado to him and lessen the return.
That's been my opinion too - with the way Ziegler pitched after the break last year, and the contracts that are being signed now for relievers, I don't think his deal is as bad as some think it is.
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#STLCards making progress on acquiring Ozuna from the #Marlins, sources tell The Athletic.
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Originally posted by tjfla View PostKey thing on Ziegler is he showed he can close out games. Big thing to teams and adds value. Also dont forget he throws 85 and below-teams with 5 guys who throw a 100 might like that different look
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Originally posted by Erick View PostIf you succeed closing games, you’re probably reliable in high-leverage situations which is what teams are paying for.
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Originally posted by fish16 View PostMan, there have been a ton of really bad reliever deals signed in the past few days. Will never understand signing a reliever to a multi year deal unless they are dominant and most of these guys are the epitome of average
I'm not saying spending that money is per se smart (it's likely not), but just musing that there are scenarios where it can make sense as the money doesn't matter as teams with payroll don't need to make every million count now and longterm.
I hope for the day we get there.
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Originally posted by lou View PostI think part of it is, we are conditioned as Marlins fans to think cheap. Other teams have literally double the payroll and hypothetically have the rest of their roster filled out. If ownership says you can spend X, you're under that budget, and don't need to acquire anyone else/can't acquire anyone else, why the hell wouldn't you just pay a .5+ WAR RP upgrade for $5-7 million a year? It could make sense for a contender looking for every win.
I'm not saying spending that money is per se smart (it's likely not), but just musing that there are scenarios where it can make sense as the money doesn't matter as teams with payroll don't need to make every million count now and longterm.
I hope for the day we get there.
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Originally posted by lou View PostI think it's the tribe/yankees recent bullpen success and its a copycat league. I think we're entering an era where there are going to be 110 IP Miller/Devenski/D. Phelps/etc. types coming in 55 games a year and averaging 2 innings.
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Originally posted by sports24/7 View PostAccording to Rosenthal, with prices for free agent relievers soaring, teams are looking to trade for some. If the value is there, I'd look to move Barraclough now. Or else, he could be the latest reliever the Marlins miss the boat selling high on.
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Also, selling high on barraclough now would allow Ziegler more opportunities before the deadline and possibly increase his value too.
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