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  • The trade is official

    Originally posted by @Joelsherman1
    Selig OK'd #Marlins #Bluejays trade.
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    Originally posted by @DKnobler
    Selig says trade "does not violate any express [MLB] rule."
    Originally posted by @BNightengale
    Selig: “I will continue to monitor this situation with the expectation that the #Marlins will take into account the sentiments of their fans"
    Originally posted by @DKnobler
    Selig also says their fans "deserve the best efforts and considered judgment of their Club."
    Last edited by TheMendozaLine; 11-19-2012, 03:09 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged

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    • Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1

      Selig said he ran #Marlins #Bluejays deal by "experienced baseball ops execs" who said it was a legit deal on talent level
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      • @Ken_Rosenthal: Statement from Selig includes this: "I am sensitive to the concerns of the fans of Miami regarding this trade and understand the reactions."

        @Ken_Rosenthal: Says he will "continue to monitor" situation, says #Marlins owners have assured him of commitment to build long-term winning team.
        Does it really matter anymore? The damage is done. That being sensitive to Marlins fans is hilarious. They pissed everyone off and quite possibly permanently damaged the Miami baseball market.

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        • If they reinvest the money they just saved into other areas and end up with a team that wins, people will show up again, that's how Miami and pretty much any fan base is. The main issue is actually believing they will do that.

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          • Originally posted by mbitcronod12 View Post
            Does it really matter anymore? The damage is done. That being sensitive to Marlins fans is hilarious.
            What would you have had Selig do in this instance?
            poop

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            • Here's the full press release:

              Commissioner's Statement regarding Miami-Toronto Trade

              Baseball Commissioner Allan H. (Bud) Selig issued the following statement today regarding the trade between the Miami Marlins and the Toronto Blue Jays:

              "Since Tuesday, I have carefully reviewed the proposed transaction between the Miami Marlins and the Toronto Blue Jays. I asked our Baseball Operations Department and our Labor Relations Department to compare this proposed transaction with similar deals. I also consulted with experienced baseball operations executives to get their input regarding the talent involved in this transaction.

              "After a thorough examination of this information, it is my conclusion that this transaction, involving established Major Leaguers and highly regarded young players and prospects, represents the exercise of plausible baseball judgment on the part of both Clubs, does not violate any express rule of Major League Baseball and does not otherwise warrant the exercise of any of my powers to prevent its completion. It is, of course, up to the Clubs involved to make the case to their respective fans that this transaction makes sense and enhances the competitive position of each, now or in the future.

              "I am sensitive to the concerns of the fans of Miami regarding this trade, and I understand the reactions I have heard since Tuesday. Baseball is a social institution with important social responsibilities and I fully understand that the Miami community has done its part to put the Marlins into a position to succeed with beautiful new Marlins Park. Going forward, I will continue to monitor this situation with the expectation that the Marlins will take into account the sentiments of their fans, who deserve the best efforts and considered judgment of their Club. I have received assurances from the ownership of the Marlins that they share these beliefs and are fully committed to build a long-term winning team that their fans can be proud of."
              http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...nt_id=40363100
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              Someone please reconcile the first tweet with the second one:

              Originally posted by @davehydesports
              Beinfest: "we received a payroll range from ownership we needed to achieve. And with this transaction we have achieved that range."
              Originally posted by @davehydesports
              Beinfest: "This isn't about payroll. This is about getting better .. we didn't talk about payroll. We needed players. We needed good players"
              Last edited by TheMendozaLine; 11-19-2012, 03:47 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged

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              • Jesus, those Beinfest quotes are terrible.

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                • Originally posted by mbitcronod12 View Post
                  Does it really matter anymore? The damage is done. That being sensitive to Marlins fans is hilarious. They pissed everyone off and quite possibly permanently damaged the Miami baseball market.
                  Not possibly, it's done. None of my co-workers are re-upping their packages this year and neither am I. That is a dozen 10 game packages not renewed and this is just one office.

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                  • No shit no one is going to the game, they can see better teams in Jupiter than what the Marlins will put out there next season. But you are crazy if you think no one will show up if they somehow end up winning and in the race for the playoffs down the road.

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                    • Originally posted by Chewford View Post
                      I googled "Lebron James maple syrup" and it looks like bobbob made those images himself.

                      Well done, bob^2.
                      I got bored last night, needed to brush up on my photoshops.
                      poop

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                      • I like Eli Manning Looking at Things
                        Amy Adams, AKA Cinnamon Muff
                        Logan Morrison: "If baseball didn't exist, I would probably be ... like a curler. Or a hairstylist."
                        Noah Perio
                        Jupiter
                        39 AB
                        15 H
                        0 2B
                        0 3B
                        0 HR
                        0 BB
                        .385/.385/.385

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                        • www.manningface.com
                          Last edited by MarlinKidd101; 11-19-2012, 11:44 PM.

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                          • I've seen some people talking about how low payroll is

                            2013
                            C Rob Brantly $500,000
                            1B Logan Morrison $520,000
                            2B Donovan Solano $505,000
                            3B Yunel Escobar $5,000,000
                            SS Adeiny Hechavarria $1,750,000 < - MLB contract
                            LF Juan Pierre $1,600,000
                            CF Justin Ruggiano $525,000
                            RF Mike Stanton $550,000
                            B Greg Dobbs $1,600,000
                            B Jeff Mathis $1,500,000
                            B Kouzmanoff/Vet Min $750,000
                            B More Vet Min $750,000
                            B Gorkys/Petersen $505,000

                            SP Ricky Nolasco $11,500,000
                            SP Jacob Turner $1,175,000 < - MLB contract
                            SP Henderson Alvarez $520,000
                            SP Nathan Eovaldi $510,000
                            SP Brad Hand $500,000
                            RP Steve Cishek $515,000
                            RP Mike Dunn $515,000
                            RP Ryan Webb $850,000 < - Arbitration projection
                            RP Wade LeBlanc $520,000
                            RP A.J. Ramos $500,000
                            RP Club Controlled $500,000
                            RP Club Controlled $500,000

                            $34,160,000 < - On Field payroll,

                            Mark Buerhle $4,500,000
                            John Buck $4,000,000
                            Heath Bell $4,000,000
                            Ozzie Guillen $2,500,000
                            Zach Cox $850,000 < - MLB contract

                            $50,010,000
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                            Give or take a million on the club controlled guesstimates.

                            I suspect $50 is higher than most think
                            Last edited by lou; 11-19-2012, 11:09 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged

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                            • lou, we're paying $4 million for not having John Buck? Man, I need to pay more attention.
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                              Also, why are they keeping Nolasco? It's gotta be the Stanton thing, right? Or he has no value? Why blow it all up and pay him $11 mil?
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                              I agree that $50 million is way more than most suspect. It's $5-$10 million more than I thought it would be
                              Last edited by Namaste; 11-19-2012, 11:15 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged

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                              • 2014
                                C Rob Brantly $510,000
                                1B Logan Morrison $2,250,000
                                2B Donovan Solano $515,000
                                3B Zach Cox $850,000
                                SS Adeiny Hechavarria $1,500,000
                                LF Cristian Yelich $500,000
                                CF Justin Ruggiano $1,750,000
                                RF Mike Stanton $7,500,000 < - Being modest, could go up $2-4 million really quick with 40 bombs and enough RBI to start comping to Howard
                                B Jeff Mathis $1,500,000
                                B Veteran Bench $1,500,000
                                B Veteran Bench $750,000
                                B Club Controlled $500,000
                                B Club Controlled $500,000

                                SP Jacob Turner $2,000,000
                                SP Henderson Alvarez $530,000
                                SP Nathan Eovaldi $530,000
                                SP Jose Fernandez $500,000
                                SP Brad Hand $510,000
                                RP Steve Cishek $515,000
                                RP Mike Dunn $900,000
                                RP Ryan Webb $1,250,000
                                RP Wade LeBlanc $1,500,000
                                RP A.J. Ramos $500,000
                                RP Club Controlled $500,000
                                RP Club Controlled $500,000

                                $29,860,000

                                Heath Bell $4,000,000
                                Ozzie Guillen $2,500,000

                                $36,360,000

                                made a mistake with RP arbitration whatevers, fixed it
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                                Originally posted by Namaste View Post
                                lou, we're paying $4 million for not having John Buck? Man, I need to pay more attention.
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                                Also, why are they keeping Nolasco? It's gotta be the Stanton thing, right? Or he has no value? Why blow it all up and pay him $11 mil?
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                                I agree that $50 million is way more than most suspect. It's $5-$10 million more than I thought it would be
                                Yea, Marlins are eating a lot of salary this year to get rid of them. $50 is certainly lowest in baseball, but it's not "absurd" low if Loria is talking with Bud. I suspect they are keeping Nolasco just to get innings every 5th day. Bullpen might all die by July if they don't add someone else. I see them going for a few 1 year rehabilitation guys, like a Carl Pavano or John Lannan if cut, and see if they can create an asset spending nothing. If they get a few guys like that, Nolasco would be easier to move certainly. I don't think you pay someone $11 million just because they are "friends" with Stanton. That isn't changing his mind.
                                Last edited by lou; 11-19-2012, 11:47 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged

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