Marlins Trade Everyone to Toronto, Receive lifetime supply of Maple Syrup

[Namaste]

The thing that makes this trade almost impossible to veto is except for Reyes,we got pretty good baseball value.

But he WAS included!

[tjfla]

But he WAS included!

Like I said this is the other thing that MLB is complaining bout and the reason why the trade still hasnt been announced. It sounds like Selig wants Toronto to give us more than just Marisnick for Reyes

[TheMendozaLine]

Any chance one of Syndergaard/d'Arnaud (who may or may not be related to Coghlan) gets thrown in?

[Big Z]

If this is the case, it's a damn shame that MLB has to be holding our balls and telling us to receive more value for what we have up because we didn't do so ourselves.

[Mainge]

Doesn't matter. It's not the case.

[Todd]

[Erick]

When I saw the trade, I broke it down as...
Reyes for Marisnick, Escobar
JJ for Alvarez, Hechevarria
Buehrle for Nicholino
Bonifacio for Desclafani
Buck for Mathis

The Marlins could put it in that way and make it make sense from a baseball perspective when you include player salaries, state of the team, etc. + say they'll re-invest in the team and MLB has really no reason to reject it.

[Ramp]

learn how to post things, Todd

[Namaste]

David Samson just wants us to win MORE games than we did last year. WIN MORE GAMES. This has NOTHING to do with a firesale.

That's why he traded a #1 and a #3 starter for a #3 starter and replaced an NL Batting Champion shortstop with a guy who's all glove/no bat.



COMMON GUISE

[Ramp]

certainly improving defense

[Namaste]

Buehrle for Nicholino

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certainly improving defense

go on...........

[tjfla]

When I saw the trade, I broke it down as...
Reyes for Marisnick, Escobar
JJ for Alvarez, Hechevarria
Buehrle for Nicholino
Bonifacio for Desclafani
Buck for Mathis

The Marlins could put it in that way and make it make sense from a baseball perspective when you include player salaries, state of the team, etc. + say they'll re-invest in the team and MLB has really no reason to reject it.

Yep breakdown is like this

Reyes for Marisnick
JJ for Hechaverria,Nicolino,DeScalfani
Buehrle for Alvarez
Boner for Escobar
Buck and cash for Mathis

This is the reason why alot of people are saying we just gave Reyes away. Now I doubt Toronto will give equal value but I could see them include another prospect or 2 in the Reyes column

[Ramp]

I mean, Mathis is supposedly tremendous defensively and Hechevarria is a future gold glover

[Erick]

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go on...........

Buehrle's salary makes his value lower significantly. Buehrle put up a 106 ERA+ in the National League last year. He's basically a league average pitcher making ace money for the rest of his contract.

From Toronto's perspective, I highly doubt they're not expecting regression.

The long flyballs for outs Buehrle allowed here will be HR's in Toronto.

You can value Buehrle however you'd like, but fact of the matter is that he's just a good, overpaid mid-rotation starter.

Nicholino projects to be a future Mark Buehrle without the terrible contract.

You really think we would've gotten much more than that if we would've traded Buehrle alone?

That's the part of the deal that upsets me the least.
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Yep breakdown is like this

Reyes for Marisnick
JJ for Hechaverria,Nicolino,DeScalfani
Buehrle for Alvarez
Boner for Escobar
Buck and cash for Mathis

This is the reason why alot of people are saying we just gave Reyes away. Now I doubt Toronto will give equal value but I could see them include another prospect or 2 in the Reyes column

I kinda like my breakdown better.

If that's how the front office viewed it and they just traded Reyes for Marisnick, that's dumb. Reyes is still...honestly, the best SS in the game right now. Overpaid or not, potential injuries, etc., he should be worth more than that. That's why I added Escobar to his part of the deal.

[Namaste]

I mean, Mathis is supposedly tremendous defensively and Hechevarria is a future gold glover

So we can both agree that our starting rotation and bats got weaker and our defense got better.