Former Marlins Since the Trade Deadline

[Beef]

We were "rather strong" at third base?

[Erick]

Yeah. It's pretty funny, really. Many of these same people would be saying "WE HAVE TO GET A THIRD BASEMAN THIS OFFSEASON!!!" if Dominguez were currently occupying the spot.

Yes, we would.

That doesn't mean that you let go of someone who could potentially fill the spot for a washed up 36-year old with no upside.

It's not as if we're better off now.

Also, if you let go of Dominguez for nothing and then trade your actual 3B, it's probably a good idea to make sure there are potential replacements down the line, no? Now, according to reports, they want a power bat at 3B because...well, who doesn't? The free agent 3B suck.

The point is, if you really think you're a buyer, fine. Get a good player to improve your team. Don't trade a prospect with the potential to be something for a player who doesn't even improve your team at all. Carlos Lee sucks.
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Honestly, I have a hard time even calling Dominguez a "prospect" anymore.

Yeah, he's a 23-year old player in the big leagues now.

[Valid]

Yes, we would.

That doesn't mean that you let go of someone who could potentially fill the spot for a washed up 36-year old with no upside.

It's not as if we're better off now.

Also, if you let go of Dominguez for nothing and then trade your actual 3B, it's probably a good idea to make sure there are potential replacements down the line, no? Now, according to reports, they want a power bat at 3B because...well, who doesn't? The free agent 3B suck.

The point is, if you really think you're a buyer, fine. Get a good player to improve your team. Don't trade a prospect with the potential to be something for a player who doesn't even improve your team at all. Carlos Lee sucks.
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But seriously though, who cares? It's not like Dominguez is anything special. We basically made a horizontal move. Just because he could "potentially" fill the spot doesn't mean he should. I mean, Donnie Murphy could "potentially" fill that spot, too.

[Erick]

We were "rather strong" at third base?

Well, we had Hanley Ramirez and Matt Dominguez in the organization.
Perhaps "rather strong" is a poor way of assessing it, but it's a lot better than...well, nothing now.

[Beef]

The trade also didn't make us worse.

If you agree that we would have been doing this:

"WE HAVE TO GET A THIRD BASEMAN THIS OFFSEASON!!!"

then losing Dominguez wasn't really any sort of a deal at all.

[Anonymous]

If your team sucks and you have no prospects, how do you get better by trading one of your better prospects for a mediocre player?

Also, it's rather premature to say that he's "not very good" and holds no value to any organization's future. He's currently performing now, scouts have always loved his defense, and his power #'s were not that bad at several levels in the minors. He can be a nice 3B (not superstar) for a big league team.

He's better than what we currently have.

He wasn't one of our better prospects. He was probably considered one of our better prospects but he wasn't. He had a .647 OPS at the time in the minors. Trading him for a Carlos Lee player sucks. But getting rid of him is not that big of a deal.

Had he been here, I would still hope the FO would look for a replacement during the off season.

[Beef]

Well, we had Hanley Ramirez and Matt Dominguez in the organization.
Perhaps "rather strong" is a poor way of assessing it, but it's a lot better than...well, nothing now.

I feel like you really don't think that any list of actual doable Marlins third basemen before Carlos Lee came includes Matt Dominguez.

[Erick]

But seriously though, who cares? It's not like Dominguez is anything special. We basically made a horizontal move.

He could be a nice starting 3B in the near future. Perhaps you think he's an absolute bust, but isn't that rather silly? The guy has no career now at the age of 23?

I don't think it's a "horizontal move."

[Beef]

We traded him for a Carlos Lee player though because he was a nothing.

Just like Chris Seddon never ended up getting us King Felix, we can't trade shit for gold.

[Valid]

What evidence do you have to prove he is going to become anything? Because there is plenty of evidence to prove that he is going to be nothing.
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Beef and I are stealing each other's thoughts.

[Erick]

The trade also didn't make us worse.

If you agree that we would have been doing this:

"WE HAVE TO GET A THIRD BASEMAN THIS OFFSEASON!!!"

then losing Dominguez wasn't really any sort of a deal at all.

There are no 3B available this offseason.
You could make a case that Matt Dominguez has more upside than the free agent 3B available this offseason. That's the problem.

If there were a bunch of 3B available, whatever. Point is, there aren't.

They could've at least signed a 3B and let Dominguez try to earn a spot in Spring Training.

Citing his minor league .OPS as the only way to evaluate him/say he's not very good is somewhat unfair.

Just last year, we were saying that if he could put up the #'s he was putting up offensively, he'd be a + for us because his defense would be very valuable. The perception about a young player changes that much over half a season in the minor leagues now? He's done?
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What evidence do you have to prove he is going to become anything? Because there is plenty of evidence to prove that he is going to be nothing.
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Beef and I are stealing each other's thoughts.

What evidence do you have to prove that he is going to be nothing? I can do this, too.

[Anonymous]

I would rather us sign Youkilis then rely on Dominguez.

[Erick]

We traded him for a Carlos Lee player though because he was a nothing.

Just like Chris Seddon never ended up getting us King Felix, we can't trade shit for gold.

You just compared Chris Seddon to Matt Dominguez. "Ehe."
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I would rather us sign Youkilis then rely on Dominguez.

So you'd rather pay millions of dollars to...Matt Dominguez?

[Beef]

They're both guys that people on here thought we could trade for players that were out of their leagues.

Are those not comparable situations?

Or are you doing that thing where only exact duplicate situations can be compared?

If that's the thing we're doing, I can just wait until you make any comparison ever and tell you multiple ways in which they can be torn down despite the fact that those aren't the ways in which you are making the comparison.
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Beef and I are stealing each other's thoughts.

We are a simple folk. No need to get super upset about trading a player none of us cared to have around.

[Anonymous]

So you'd rather pay millions of dollars to...Matt Dominguez?

LoL. Are you really comparing Dominguez to Youkilis? That's a very bad comparison. Very, very bad.