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  • Originally posted by tr305 View Post
    Texas said no to Olt when Angels asked.
    Greinke is a two month rental. JJ's under contract for all of next year, and doesn't have anxiety issues (although injury problems negate that).

    I think Texas would be willing to deal Olt in a JJ swap. But we'd need to get at least one of Perez/Martin along with Olt to make the deal, along with other prospects.
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    This Greinke situation could've been disastrous for the Marlins, now it's becoming best case scenario. A win win.

    If we trade JJ's, it's going to be because we got an offer we couldn't refuse.

    If we don't get the offer we want, he stays.

    This just leaves Texas with fewer options, and JJ is the best pitcher on the market.
    Last edited by dim; 07-27-2012, 07:55 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged

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    • We can include Carlos Lee in the package to TX. Would be very nice deal for both sides.

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      • I would love Olt/Leonys Martin/Cody Buckel.

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        • Two of Profar/Olt/Perez or GTFO

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          • With Zack Greinke off the board, the two best pitchers left who are rumored to be available are James Shields of Tampa Bay and Miami’s Josh Johnson.

            Are the Rangers turning their attention to those two?

            “Not necessarily, no.” according to one source

            The Rangers could stay with the rotation they have, knowing that Neftali Feliz could be back within two weeks or they could move Alexi Ogando from the bullpen. Scott Feldman is riding a four-game winning streak.

            The Rangers may try to upgrade in other areas.

            Or they could see if the price goes down on Shields or Johnson.

            But if the rumors are true that the Marlins want a high return on Johnson, they aren’t getting what the Rangers refused to give the Brewers.
            Johnson, Shields? Maybe, maybe not


            Evan Grant ‏@Evan_P_Grant
            @JCRMarlinsbeat If Rangers offer Olt in deal to Marlins for Johnson, I believe JJ is done deal; shown no inclination to do so ... yet
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            Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS
            #rangers said unlikely to get josh johnson. shields still in play. or they could go for relievers & have ogando start
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            Last edited by MiamiHomer; 07-27-2012, 08:38 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged

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            • Don't know why we would want Profar. And I believe I remember Washington or Daniels saying last week that Profar was totally off-limits.
              LHP Chad James-Jupiter Hammerheads-

              5-15 3.80 ERA (27 starts) 149.1IP 173H 63ER 51BB 124K

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              • Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS
                #rangers said unlikely to get josh johnson. shields still in play. or they could go for relievers & have ogando start
                Maybe not...

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                • If Texas is out, wouldn't mind trading J.J and something else to the Dodgers for a package of Allen Webster, Zack Lee, Rubby De La Rosa, and Ethan Martin

                  But...
                  #Dodgers and #Cubs discussing a Ryan Dempster-for-Josh Lindblom deal, source says.
                  https://twitter.com/jcrasnick/status/229015000063295488
                  Last edited by LocoMarlinFan; 07-27-2012, 09:04 PM.

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                  • Lomo is a stud.

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                    • Still 3 days left till the deadline. A lot can change. I think the moves by the Angels really put pressure on them.

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                      • I agree. To me, Texas feels like they need to make a counter move. That Angel rotation is effin scary.
                        LHP Chad James-Jupiter Hammerheads-

                        5-15 3.80 ERA (27 starts) 149.1IP 173H 63ER 51BB 124K

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                        • Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale
                          The #Rangers insist they don't have to land a frontline starter and can put Ogando or Feliz in rotation
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                          • That's probably a ploy to lower the price?
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                            Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal
                            Sources: #Brewers did not insist upon Profar or Olt from #Rangers; they wanted Perez. Rangers felt total package was too much and passed.
                            Hmmm
                            Last edited by Miamarlin21; 07-27-2012, 09:53 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged
                            LHP Chad James-Jupiter Hammerheads-

                            5-15 3.80 ERA (27 starts) 149.1IP 173H 63ER 51BB 124K

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                            • Don't see why the Rangers wouldn't move Olt. He is blocked anyways and JJ is a great fit for them. I have a feeling we are asking for Profar +, want to see if Rangers will budge, if not, you "settle" for Olt.

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                              • I think that if the Rangers do not get JJ, the Bluejays will. I do not see the Bluejays holding out for us to lower the price. They'll pay what we want.

                                I wonder if the Jays would let us choose between D'arnaud and Lawrie + pitching Spects.

                                D'arnaud is a tough case because I think he's out for the season.

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