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  • Juan Carlos Oviedo

    Also when Volstad gets traded for a minor league backup catcher it will free up room
    Originally posted by Madman81
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    • It's highly likely West would be one of the first to go. He hasn't been able to stay healthy, hasn't really helped us when he has been healthy and he's out of options next year. He's a definite DFA candidate.
      Last edited by THE_REAL_MIBS; 12-03-2011, 07:32 AM.

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      • I think Hensley and Murphy would be the first two cuts as they are arbitration eligible. No chance they fit in. Oviedo and Badenhop are also likely cuts, but the team might be able to trade them as their projected arb numbers are not unreasonable so I think they'll hold onto them until the deadline. But they'll cut them if they have to. That's 4 right there, they don't need to start considering prospect cuts jut yet. They can "showcase" West in Spring Training and try to move him in a Hayden Penn type deal in April. But he, Hatcher, Rosario, Caminero, maybe Poveda, would be the next group. They will keep Reed. They like him. They just sent him to the AFL.

        As for Volstad, I think they tender him after spending so much money on a closer and he's the 5, with an AAA rotation of Leblanc, Sanabia, Hand, Koehler, and Villanueva, and James in AA. That's not so terrible.
        Last edited by lou; 12-03-2011, 10:14 AM. Reason: Doublepost Merged

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        • West vs. Volstad...who goes first?
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          • I remember when I thought West would end up being a huge part of the rotation. 'Twas a long time ago.

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            • Y'all do realize that Oviedo isn't on the 40 right now? He's suspended meaning he doesn't count towards it anyway (kinda like having someone on the 60-day DL)
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              Originally posted by mbaamin08 View Post
              It's highly likely West would be one of the first to go. He hasn't been able to stay healthy, hasn't really helped us when he has been healthy and he's out of options next year. He's a definite DFA candidate.
              Not too sure about that.
              Last edited by Miamarlin21; 12-03-2011, 12:36 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged
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              • Originally posted by Miamarlin21 View Post
                Y'all do realize that Oviedo isn't on the 40 right now? He's suspended meaning he doesn't count towards it anyway (kinda like having someone on the 60-day DL)
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                Not too sure about that.
                He is. He had options used in '09, '10 and '11 and he was drafted in 2005 meaning he's past the 5 years of professional baseball rule to get a fourth option.

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                • You're right. He was optioned for over 20 days in 09.
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                    • Originally posted by lou View Post
                      As for Volstad, I think they tender him after spending so much money on a closer and he's the 5, with an AAA rotation of Leblanc, Sanabia, Hand, Koehler, and Villanueva, and James in AA. That's not so terrible.
                      I said before the offseason began that I wouldn't be upset if they signed a closer/kept a Volstad as the #5, and the majority thought it was terrible.

                      I still don't think Volstad's coming back though; It seems like the organization is disappointed with him (and West, for that matter).
                      Last edited by Erick; 12-03-2011, 08:34 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by Erick View Post
                        I said before the offseason began that I wouldn't be upset if they signed a closer/kept a Volstad as the #5, and the majority thought it was terrible.

                        I still don't think Volstad's coming back though; It seems like the organization is disappointed with him (and West, for that matter).
                        Because it's terrible.

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                        • Originally posted by Mainge View Post
                          Because it's terrible.
                          I don't think it's terrible since it doesn't really prevent us from doing something else this offseason.

                          It's also not terrible when guys like Mark Buehrle and Edwin Jackson are the 2nd and 3rd best SP's on the market.

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                          • It's a waste of money.

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                            • Originally posted by Mainge View Post
                              It's a waste of money.
                              Why?

                              Is Mark Buehrle a waste of money?

                              Moves like this get criticized because, sabermetrically, we improve our record by about a win so whoopty-doo.

                              Well, assuming Bell returns to 09/10 Bell (which is possible), the difference between a Heath Bell and Mark Buehrle who's been consistently worth ~3.5 wins the past three years is approximately...one win.

                              Buehrle's looking for probably another year, more money, and apparently wants a no-trade clause. And he's regarded as the 2nd best pitcher on the market with about half the teams in the big leagues rumored to be interested, meaning there's a strong chance we don't even get him if we keep waiting for something to happen.

                              Bell's not a waste of money. It might be an inefficent use of money, but the same can be said for a lot of free agents.

                              Also, while the sabermetric world views it as dumb, I have to question how dumb it is if every team keeps doing it (even the A's).
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                              Not to mention the fact that acquiring a closer like Bell might actually give us some leverage in signing one of these SP's.
                              Last edited by Erick; 12-03-2011, 09:28 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged

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                              • The A's acquired a closer in free agency for big bucks recently? Which?
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