Stark: Marlins Could Be Big Players This Off-Season UPDATE: All Big Names In Play

[lilchris11]

Aramis & Reyes are younger and are also not falling apart at the seams.

reyes is falling apart with leg issues and ramirez is old whats the diffrence??

[Beef]

Sandro wants you to post in the thread where people introduce themselves

[Ramp]

go look up the plays he made for the gaints in the OF he looked real slick
out there

this is not true in the least

he was an abomination out there

[lilchris11]

Sandro wants you to post in the thread where people introduce themselves

ok...

[Erick]

It involves shedding close to $20 million in bad contracts. Unless you think Buck and Nolasco are good contracts.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to add two guys who "had" something, are going to play in a cavernous ballpark and are, worst case, DFA risks and the organization is fine.

Nolasco's contract isn't even terrible.
John Buck is overpaid. As bad as John Buck was this year, he still put up a ~2 WAR. What catcher are you signing after you trade him?

Also, why would the Yankees and Red Sox take our salaries and basically pay the entire salaries of their garbage players, as well?

In the Red Sox case, they don't even need a catcher.

And even if the Yankees/Red Sox are paying entire salaries, Burnett and Lackey still suck.

You just made us worse.

[Big Z]

Lackey has too much left in his contract for Boston to pick up. If you add Buck's contract to that, it's absurd.

We can get a better return for Nolasco than AJ.

Buck doesn't have to hit .300/.350/.500 to be good, he's our catcher and he needs to call good games and make the best out of our pitching staff. Buck needs to work on throwing guys out though, 17% CS is very, very shitty.

[Bobbob1313]

You really don't see anything wrong with John Buck at $8 million?

Where is $8 million coming from?

[lilchris11]

Sandro wants you to post in the thread where people introduce themselves

what thread is that

[Beef]

this is not true in the least

he was an abomination out there

look it up

Prove it

[lilchris11]

this is not true in the least

he was an abomination out there

he made good throws and made some nice running plays

[Swifty]

Where is $8 million coming from?

He signed a backloaded deal. Wasn't it 3/$21?

[MiamiHomer]

reyes is falling apart with leg issues and ramirez is old whats the diffrence??

Before this year Beltran had only played 64 games the previous year and 81 the year before that. Other than 2009, Reyes has been over 120 games the last two years and the 4 years before 09 he had played 150+ each season.

[Erick]

He signed a backloaded deal. Wasn't it 3/$21?

3/18

[Swifty]

Nolasco's contract isn't even terrible.
John Buck is overpaid. As bad as John Buck was this year, he still put up a ~2 WAR. What catcher are you signing after you trade him?

Also, why would the Yankees and Red Sox take our salaries and basically pay the entire salaries of their garbage players, as well?

In the Red Sox case, they don't even need a catcher.

And even if the Yankees/Red Sox are paying entire salaries, Burnett and Lackey still suck.

You just made us worse.

Yeah, you're forgetting the part where that money is freed up to spend on someone who deserves it. Burnett and Lackey basically serve the role of the spring training invitee.

[MiamiHomer]

He signed a backloaded deal. Wasn't it 3/$21?

It was 18, not 21.