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  • Hyde: Marlins' Buildup to Stadium Lacks Wins

    To rub salt into the wounds...

    Marlins' buildup to stadium lacks wins
    June wasn't a swoon – it was a bill for years of mistakes


    Dave Hyde Sun Sentinel Columnist

    8:22 p.m. EDT, June 25, 2011

    Amid the poems and the public money, amid the media tours and the on-location commercials, amid the nightly countdown and corporate cold calls about premium seats, do you sense what's missing in the buildup to the Marlins Get your Marlins Tickets now!' new stadium?

    Or do you just look to the Heat for wins now?

    Because June hasn't been just an awful month for the Marlins. It's been an awful omen, too.

    It's been a two-win, 21-loss accounting entering Saturday for all of their mistakes, big and obvious, from the Miguel Cabrera trade fallout to the churning of nine managerial regimes in 11 years.

    Mostly, June has been a bill come due for the two dirty little lies Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria tried (and sometimes succeeded in) foisting on fans, media, potential ticket buyers and stadium-voting politicians over the past several years:
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    1. They're struggling financially. This lie provided the excuse to be cheap. It came crashing down like Humpty Dumpty when (A) the players union and owners broke historical ground with a joint statement last summer condemning Loria's lack of spending, and (B) reports showed the Marlins' own accounting had them making $100 million over four years.

    2. They're smarter than most teams. The lie here wasn't just that they acted smarter. It was how they told you so if you listened to them condemn other teams' contracts and puff up their prospects.

    But as their season crumbles, day by day, it increasingly looks as if there are only two ways out of this mess if you're Loria — besides staying in France for the summer.

    The first is to sell the team, which he says he won't do.

    The second is to spend money, which he hasn't done in years.

    But when you look at the holes in this Marlins lineup, you wonder who's had a worse season so far, shortstop Hanley Ramirez or president of baseball operations Larry Beinfest?

    Ramirez hovered around .200 for much of this year. Beinfest and the front office are hitting about the same, too.

    It's difficult to judge Beinfest fairly, because it's impossible to tell sometimes where the financial decisions end and the baseball ones begin. But so many players have so many question marks that Edwin Rodriguez gave up as manager and Jack McKeon returned to offer some tough-love order.

    Rodriguez, of course, became manager when Fredi Gonzalez was run off. Another bad decision.

    It ties up everything in a neat bow to say the Cabrera trade sunk the Marlins. Only reliever Burke Badenhop is left to show for a Hall of Fame talent. But that trade, if possible, keeps growing worse.

    It sunk them coming and going. Cameron Maybin didn't do much in his time here. So he was shipped to San Diego, where, at 24, he's emerging as an average center-fielder.

    Don't dismiss that label. Average is several steps up from how Chris Coghlan was playing when he got demoted to the minors (then put on the disabled list).

    Sunday, Andrew Miller makes his second start for Boston. He's another player the Marlins got for Cabrera and gave up on. Miller had a decent start for Boston last week, one day after Marlins reliever Brian Sanches had to start.

    They had no one else. Their rotation is hurting. Worse, they have no one in the system to help.

    It's not all gloom. Gaby Sanchez, at 27, is the Most Valuable Player of the team. Mike Stanton will be a star for years, even if while his game develops he can strike out four times. like Friday night.

    But is there anyone else you're sure of anymore heading into the new stadium? Young players need time. But wasn't part of this team's mission statement to manage the timeline so a winning team intersects with the new stadium?

    June is about done. But for the Marlins, changing out some problems won't be as easy as changing out the calendar.
    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/f...,575814.column

  • #2
    You know you're scraping the bottom of the fucking barrel when you are bemoaning the lack of Andrew Miller and Cameron Maybin on this team.
    poop

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    • #3
      Dave Hyde is an assclown and has been for the better part of a decade.

      Who else am I sure of going into the stadium? A guy named Josh Johnson. Ricky Nolasco who, despite his ups and downs, will still always end with at least average stats and better peripherals. Anibal Sanchez. 3 tough months and Hanley Ramirez no longer means anything? Logan Morrison struggles for a few weeks and he's out on his ass too?

      Also nice touch talking about 9 managers in 11 years as the Loria regime's fault considering:

      A) There have only been 8 managers (McKeon twice) in 11 years, and
      B) Only 6 of them (McKeon twice) have fallen under the Loria ownership

      Where is he getting his information from?

      And Andrew Miller gave up 3 walks and 7 hits in 5.2 innings and he's pissed we let THAT go? Fucking seriously?

      This guy has to be the absolute worst beat writer in the country. I used to like him but man, he has completely lost it the last few years.
      Originally posted by Madman81
      Most of the people in the world being dumb is not a requirement for you to be among their ranks.
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      • #4
        Dear Dave Hyde

        You have no business collecting a check for being a beat sports writer.

        Regards

        Management


        PS. LOL @ Andrew Miller. Really guy, Andrew Miller?

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        • #5
          I still think the 'get your Marlins tickets now!' thing is just about the pinnacle of unintended comedy with this team.

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          • #6
            That and the text alerts thing in this one are wonderful

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            • #7
              This article lost me at "Dave Hyde Sun Sentinel Columnist"

              reports showed the Marlins' own accounting had them making $100 million over four years
              No mention of how deep in debt the team was and how this was necessary.

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              • #8
                Loria did not just put $155 million upfront to begin stadium construction either.

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                • #9
                  Agree on some points, disagree on others.

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                  • #10
                    here's the point I agree with:

                    It's been a two-win, 21-loss accounting entering Saturday
                    the only factual statement in the whole damn thing
                    Originally posted by Madman81
                    Most of the people in the world being dumb is not a requirement for you to be among their ranks.
                    Need help? Questions? Concerns? Want to chat? PM me!

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                    • #11
                      I agree with his overall premise, that this skid is at least partially the culmination of years of bad moves, but his delivery is just a hackneyed hate piece.

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                      • #12
                        This skid is absolutely not the culmination of years of bad moves.


                        The skid is a culmination of several losses in a short span.

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                        • #13
                          If we win even half of the one-run games in that span, we go 9-14 and we're still above .500 and ahead of the Mets and Nats.

                          It's a typical bad month, which happens to everyone, and it got compounded by some absolute shit luck. It's not indicative of anything. It only is if you have an ax that needs grinding.
                          poop

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                          • #14
                            It's an accounting

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                            • #15
                              His article?
                              poop

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