Starting Pitchers, Waivers, and The Marlins

[geemoney]

Any interest?

And he could pinch-hit for us!

[Ramp]

It's been reported it was the Giants, not the Marlins, that claimed Trevor Hoffman

[Big Z]

Oh well, I understand passing on hoffman due to our bullpen being above average. I do think we HAVE to get a starter though, we can't stay in this race if our 4th and 5th starters are "hot" for a couple games cause they Will meltdown, down the stretch. Let's atleast get Penny, Harden would be awesome, but as long as we improve I'll be satisfied with our management and atleast we will know we tried

[Ramp]

Is Penny an improvement over what we're throwing out there right now? I don't know. But if the Marlins think he is, they need to sign him asap.

[Swifty]

I think Penny represents 50-70 salvageable innings.

Our schedule gets really funky on September 7th. We'll have 3 off-days in 3 1/2 weeks, with a double header sandwiched in there against Philly in Miami. Obviously, that offday doesn't mean we'd necessarily need to "find" another starter as we could throw one guy on an extra day's rest and one guy on regular rest, but assuming no rainouts and that we just keep our top-4 going on a regular schedule, Johnson would miss that HUGE Phillies series entirely (he'd throw 9/20 @ CIN and then 9/25 vs NYM; the Phillies series starts 9/22 with the double header). What's more concerning, is on that regular throw schedule, JJ would not be going in the final series of the year @ Philly either, and would have to go on short rest to just pitch the final day.

So, with that in mind (and I know Beinfest and Fredi don't even care), we're going to have to reshuffle our rotation. We're probably going to need to bring in a "sixth" arm to make at least one start to let JJ get lined up with the Phillies series (as in plural); thus, I'd make a case anyone we'll claim or be rumored to be claiming is an upgrade over any in house "emergency" starter candidates we have. This isn't even an "OMG, it wasn't Volstad, it was the rain" argument, this is simply, we need an extra arm for the way our September is scheduled and the way our rotation lines up, at the moment. So whether it's Penny, Harden, Redding or whomever, I don't care, we need an extra arm.

And on the Penny front. He's 31, he's pitching for another one year deal that's guaranteed above the ML minimum, and, the 800 LB gorilla in the room is, if we slide in the standings, what do we do with JJ? We're clearly scared about his innings (I'm going to start a topic about this) and I get the feeling we're a bad week and a half standings wise away from just shutting him down for the year. Bringing in Penny gives us the option to do that and still make an effort to "finish strong."

[Big Z]

The Twins acquired John Rauch, claimed Harden and are close to acquiring Mahay.The Giants are the team that claimed Heilman, so our company for Penny is minimizing

[Ramp]

I got no problems in grabbing Penny for if/when we shut down JJ. I just don't know if Penny is what we should be looking for while we're still somewhat in the race

[Big Z]

What do you think we can get, Other then penny?

[Omar]

The Twins acquired John Rauch, claimed Harden and are close to acquiring Mahay.The Giants are the team that claimed Heilman, so our company for Penny is minimizing

If the Twins claimed him then apparently we have no interest

[Ramp]

I think AL got first dibs at him

[nny]

/random but i got nowhere else for /random

I was on Sickel's site to read about the guys TB got

And I saw a fanpost about top 3b prospects so I was like I wonder how people think about Dominguez yeah?

Guy rated him 5th. Cool stuff.

He compared him to Brian Giles. He's an idiot.

God I fucking hate comparisons made. Yeah Dominguez is gonna come up and post a 1.5 BB/K people! WOO. dumbass

[nny]

/random but i got nowhere else for /random

I was on Sickel's site to read about the guys TB got

And I saw a fanpost about top 3b prospects so I was like I wonder how people think about Dominguez yeah?

Guy rated him 5th. Cool stuff.

He compared him to Brian Giles. He's an idiot.

God I fucking hate comparisons made. Yeah Dominguez is gonna come up and post a 1.5 BB/K people! WOO. dumbass

His response to me

"You can not only look at minor league stats to make a comp for a player. You get a much better feel for a player by actually watching him play."

ok. So you can SEE that Matt Dominguez is gonna come up and put up a 1.5 BB/K. Ok

I mean, I'm not insulting visual scouting, it has vast importance. But by God it leaves to dumbfuck as dumbfuck comps.

[Big Z]

So penny is supposed to be officially released today by noon. Does he have to sign today with another team to be elegible for the playoffs or by tomorrow? He says he wants to play for the team with the best chance of going all the way, and the yanks are now pursuing him too, so this should be interesting, our chances seem slimmer then I thought they were

[Swifty]

There's a rumor going around that his release was predicated upon him not signing with an AL team.

We shall see.

[Big Z]

Oh, that's true, he wasn't supposed to sign with an AL contender. But is he supposed to sign with someone today or is it tomorrow?