Buente Optioned to AAA; Sosa DFA'd

[Big Z]

West might also be an option. He had another great outing at New Orleans today 6 IP 1 ER 2 BB 4 K's on 99 pitches

[Miamarlin21]

have you guys actually seen some of these guys pitch in AA

I saw Sanabia pitch and he was nasty. DJ looked good too. Unfortunately I didn't get to see Marinez, but I will in about a week.
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I know who's getting called up!!!!! I just got confirmation
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Just got confirmation it is in fact Sanabia.

[Fish and Chips]

And?

[Bobbob1313]

How's he throwing? COnsistent low 90s?

[fishy]

Seen many AA Suns throw
Sanabia is Filthy
Jennings at times crazy good
Villanueva may suprise you
Koehler throws much harder than has been mentioned
Marinez pure power

[wanks1212]

he's not groundbally, he's flyball-y. He'll probably bit sitting around a 40% fb rate, same as Ricky.

He's got a 46% GB rate in AA, and he's been right around 35% through most of his minor league career. So yeah, Ricky.

Part of the reason Sanabia's ERA is so low in AA is that he only has a 2.3% HR/FB rate and a .244 BABIP. Now, I don't want to say those definitely won't carry over, but yeah, they're most likely not going to carry over. If he's giving up fly balls 40% of the time, he's probably not going to have some kind of super duper ERA, because hsi HR/FB and BABIP will be higher in teh majors than they were in the minors.

[Ralph]

Dunno where u got ur numbers from but minorleaguesplits has his career GB% at 45% and theonly year he was below 45 was last season at 40%. and his FB % is 35 and only time it was above 40% was in 17 innings his first season.

[nny]

He's got a 46% GB rate in AA, and he's been right around 35% through most of his minor league career. So yeah, Ricky.

MILB GB rates are volatile, but FB rates tend to be static, so they're the thing to look at.

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/ar...ing-by-ground/
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Dunno where u got ur numbers from but minorleaguesplits has his career GB% at 45% and theonly year he was below 45 was last season at 40%. and his FB % is 35 and only time it was above 40% was in 17 innings his first season.

I don't like MILB splits for batted ball data (i.e. add up his career GB, LD, and FB%, you get 96.5%. Where's the other 3.5%?)

I used www.statcorner.com for that.

37.4% FB this year
39.6% last year
36% year before

37.7% career
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well, that's basically normal. He's not a GB guy or a FB guy. I think I was leaning FB because of 40% last year, but his data as a whole basically points to normal. 38% FB and 19% LD would be 43% GB, average is 45%.

[wanks1212]

Dunno where u got ur numbers from but minorleaguesplits has his career GB% at 45% and theonly year he was below 45 was last season at 40%. and his FB % is 35 and only time it was above 40% was in 17 innings his first season.

I said 46% GB rate. I phrased the other part....well, awfully. Regarding the 35%, I meant that as his FB.

MILB GB rates are volatile, but FB rates tend to be static, so they're the thing to look at.

Re: as they advance up through the minors? That may make sense. I just don't like MILB FB data as much because of how they differentiate between LD and FB in teh minors nad how their differentiation between the two is generally unreliable.

[lou]

Seen many AA Suns throw
Sanabia is Filthy
Jennings at times crazy good
Villanueva may suprise you
Koehler throws much harder than has been mentioned
Marinez pure power

You mean Villanueva gives up even more fly balls than I anticipate!

Secondly, Koehler throws mid 90s. He throws upper 90s?

[THE_REAL_MIBS]

The Marlins should give serious thought to replacing the bullpen gate with a revolving door. After Sunday’s win the Marlins jettisoned right-handers Jay Buente and Jorge Sosa, who combined to walk three batters with the bases loaded in Saturday’s 9-8 loss to the Rays. Buente is headed back to Triple-A New Orleans and Sosa was designated for assignment.

Rather than call up a reliever from the minors, the Marlins are dipping down to Double-A Jacksonville for a starter. Right-hander Alex Sanabia will join the team in Baltimore Tuesday for the start of a three-game series. Since his first pro season in 2006, when he made11 relief appearances for the Gulf CoastRookie League Marlins, Sanabiahas pitched as a starter.

In 14 outings for the Suns, he is 5-1 with a 2.03 ERA. The Marlins are in desperate need of strike throwers in their bullpen and Sanabia, a 32nd round pick out of Castle Park HS in Chula Vista, Calif. in 2006, certainly is that. In 84 1/3 innings,he’s walked 16 and struck out 65.

The other spot is going to left-hander James Houser, a Sarasota product and former second-round pick of the Rays in 2003. The Marlins signed Houser to a minor-league deal earlier this season and he went 0-0 with a 3.26 ERA with four walks and 11 strikeouts in 19 1/3 innings. Houser, 25, started all but four of his 125 pro appearances in the Rays’ system.

The Marlins will open their series at Baltimore Tuesday with two lefties in the pen, but Houser may be more of a long guy than a situational reliever. Left-handed hitters batted .367 off him, but Houser held righties to a .196 average…

RHP Alex Sanabia, LHP James Houser next to get bullpen tryouts

Count me as one who doesn't like the move to call up Sanabia. We don't have many good starting pitching prospects in the high minors. I'm not really too thrilled with calling one of them up to try to fix out awful bullpen (though, selfishly, I am excited to see him throw). I know our rotation has been the best thing on our team and that none of the 5 of them are going anywhere unless they get hurt but I still don't like dipping into our weak starting pitching depth to fix the bullpen.

[Miamarlin21]

We still have a move to make...

[fishy]

No one is debating that I have seen Marinez heat and more heat

[Jay]

I know our rotation has been the best thing on our team and that none of the 5 of them are going anywhere unless they get hurt but I still don't like dipping into our weak starting pitching depth to fix the bullpen.

I hate when people say this. When there are currently 5 starters producing and you have West producing and another option in RVH in new orleans for a spot start. Its not like a pitcher cant move back to the rotation to fill a void at some point. He is producing and throwing strikes. He could have to wait for another 3 years before he gets a shot at the rotation. If he can help in the bullpen why not let him collect a big league paycheck and help the team there?

[THE_REAL_MIBS]

I hate when people say this. When there are currently 5 starters producing and you have West producing and another option in RVH in new orleans for a spot start. Its not like a pitcher cant move back to the rotation to fill a void at some point. He is producing and throwing strikes. He could have to wait for another 3 years before he gets a shot at the rotation. If he can help in the bullpen why not let him collect a big league paycheck and help the team there?

The thing I don't like about it is that it requires a different mindset to be able to come out of the bullpen. Both VandenHurk and Hensley talked about this when they were put in the bullpen. Starters have a completely different routine than relievers. It takes some getting used to. I hate how this team just takes guys that are not used to pitching in relief and toss them into the bullpen. With VandenHurk, at least he had a little experience with pitching in relief from spring training and Hensley had pitched in the bullpen before as well but Sanabia hasn't come out of the bullpen for 4 years and now he's expected to adjust to this on the fly against the best hitters in the world? I hope I'm just freaking out for no reason and that Sanabia will pitch well but this is a lot to put on a 21 year old making his major league debut.