Offensive Struggles

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Yes, the Marlins have been held to three runs in the last three games. Yes, the Marlins have been manhandled by two pitchers with ERAs north of 5. Yes, the Marlins have a team OPS of .720 (20th in MLB).

But look at the bright side:

1) Gaby has and continues to exceed expectations by more or less carrying over his April numbers into May.
2) Hanley cares now.
3) CC and Ross aren't doing their best Cameron Maybin impressions anymore.
4) Brett Hayes and Wes Helms aren't going to start together everyday.
5) This core has put up an OPS of .766 since 2006.
6) Most importantly, the problems with the lineup are not systemic. With one or two tweaks the offense should turn it around.

While it is extremely frustrating to watch this team scratch out a run, this is still the National League. Treading water for another couple of weeks is not going to be the end of the world*. Yes, I'm going there...

June is around the corner. Despite his recent struggles, Mike Stanton is almost here. Mike Stanton can best a .631 OPS with his eyes closed and one hand tied behind his back.

Happy days aren't guaranteed but the offense will not be this bad much longer.

*We'll talk in October if they finish two games out of a playoff spot though.

[Bobbob1313]

June is around the corner. Despite his recent struggles, Mike Stanton is almost here. Mike Stanton can best a .631 OPS with his eyes closed and one hand tied behind his back.

He probably can't top a .558 OPS, though.

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.710 in May.

[FishFF]

But we lost a series to the Astros.

[Mainge]

The player hate on this board is fucking retarded.

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The player hate on this board is fucking retarded.

Let's talk about how great Maybin is despite no statistical evidence that he is.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MAY-BIN!

[nny]

I don't see how Gaby is exceeding expectations, outside of someone like Spike's. The guy is performing EXACTLY how he was expected to preform.

-He's on pace to finish with 15 HRs in 625 PA (expected to have 15-20 HR power)
-He's on pace to finish with 42 doubles in 625 PA (Expected to have his power come from doubles)
-He has a .162 ISO, right around league average of .150 (He was expected to have average power)
-He's walking 11% of the time, above average and basically on his minor league walk % of 12%
-He's striking out 18.5% of the time, exactly league average. This area he is actually underperforming in, considering he's suppose to be better than average at not striking out. But you give him some level of leeway for this being a rookie, and he's made up for it by...
-Having a .315 BABIP, where he is expected to be league average at .300. And neither of those are massive under-performances/over-performances.

I mean shit, no cheating, which is his CHONE projection line and which is his season line?
A: .270/.356/.430/.786
B: .268/.358/.430/.788

Answer: It don't matter cuz they're basically the same line!

Almost every single post on Gaby is "OMG I CAN"T BELIEVE HE"S PERFORMING SO WELL"

When, all throughout the minors, this is exactly what everyone (sans-Spike) said to expect out of him

So, yeah, can we stop with the OMG GABY IS AMAZING stuff? He's doing good, yeah, woo, awesome. It's a hell of a lot better that he's performing up to expectations rather than being under them. An average 1b! Woo. Let's not get cum stains on our shirts just yet ladies.

[Mainge]

Let's talk about how great Maybin is despite no statistical evidence that he is.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MAY-BIN!

That's exactly what I said!

I know he'll never be as good as your boy Amezaga but actively rooting against him makes you the worst thing ever.

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He's even exceeding your expectations, nny.

[Bobbob1313]

Let's talk about how great Maybin is despite no statistical evidence that he is.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MAY-BIN!

Has anyone said he's been great?

I'm pretty sure it'd be easy to say he's been better than Chris Coghlan this year, if you take the year in totality.

Coghlan's .710 OPS this month has been much better than Maybin, but it still comes with a .310 OBP mostly out of the leadoff spot.

That's all of .011 better than Boner in the leadoff spot last year.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO COGH-LAN!

Personally, I do think Maybin is the one to be sent down if the decision is to be made right now, but let's not act like you are even somewhat fair when it comes to him. You hate him, and it's not based on "statistical evidence".




Also, everyone's expectations for Gaby were way too low. People were saying his ceiling was a high .700's OPS. That was plainly silly, given his minor league track record.

However, if I was MK7, I would totally post in his Crystal Ball thread about how right I was. I nailed it so far.

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Chris Coghlan is a much better baseball player than Emilio Bonifacio. Last year proved it and his minor league record proved it.



I'm not hiding my hate for Maybin. The guy sucks. He does nothing right and never will. If he were any good, I'd like him but he isn't. Why that is so difficult to understand and why it makes me the worst person ever I don't know.

[nny]

He's even exceeding your expectations, nny.

Vast majority of those were not my real expectations and were simply having fun, I would think that'd be rather obvious.

So really, he's beating the expectations of Todd and Swift. His two biggest hatters. Ok.

[Mainge]

Chris Coghlan is a much better baseball player than Emilio Bonifacio. Last year proved it and his minor league record proved it.



I'm not hiding my hate for Maybin. The guy sucks. He does nothing right and never will. If he were any good, I'd like him but he isn't. Why that is so difficult to understand and why it makes me the worst person ever I don't know.

Because no matter how many times you bring it up, yell it, scream it, pout about it or whatever in the typical Festa-fashion; you have no idea if it the bolded is true.

[Party]

When that OPS climbs over .700, baby.
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Did I run over your cat, Mainge?

[Bobbob1313]

Chris Coghlan is a much better baseball player than Emilio Bonifacio. Last year proved it and his minor league record proved it.



I'm not hiding my hate for Maybin. The guy sucks. He does nothing right and never will. If he were any good, I'd like him but he isn't. Why that is so difficult to understand and why it makes me the worst person ever I don't know.

I would say actively rooting against players on your own team is pretty shitty, but that's just me. Like, bragging about how you heckled that player at a game is pretty dumb.

Also, you are ridiculous when it comes to him, so it's also not worth discussing.
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When that OPS climbs over .700, baby.

His OPS for the 2009 season was over .700. His OPS for his career is .008 below .700.

He also has less plate appearances over his entire major league career than Emilio Bonifacio got last year alone. To talk about him like he'll never be anything makes you look ridiculous.