Speculation: Do the Marlins Make a Deadline Move on July 31st?

[Metes]

I say no.

[THE_REAL_MIBS]

I'm about 70/30 that we can either get Pavano or get the Johnson trade done (both of which would help us) so I voted yes.

[marlinsfan24]

I think we'll get Nick Johnson at the very least, so I say it will help us

[wanks1212]

Here comes a LOOGY

[m26555]

I think we'll get Nick Johnson at the very least, so I say it will help us

This.

[BigGameFish]

NJ doesnt make up a playoff team guys, so sorry that means it doesnt help us.

[Omar]

I'm still hoping for Bell/Gonzalez, but I agree with mba in thinking that we get at least one of Johnson and Pavano, if not both.

[BigGameFish]

I'm still hoping for Bell/Gonzalez, but I agree with mba in thinking that we get at least one of Johnson and Pavano, if not both.

I cant even imagine what Padres where demanding for both of those guys, probably our entire farm system and Hanley.

[The Hanram]

NJ doesnt make up a playoff team guys, so sorry that means it doesnt help us.

I happen to think it does. It places everyone in a role more befitting them (save for Cantu at third base but beggars can't be choosers and that .400+ OBP sure would like sexy right in front of Hanley). It also takes Bonifacio out of the equation and lets him be in a role in which he should excel and thereby keep everyone fresher on the infield.

[BigGameFish]

Moving a bad player to the bench doesnt push you so the playoffs. Putting a .400 OBP in front of Hanley wont make a big difference in the win column. We need a bat BEHIND Hanley not in front of him. Plus NJ is slow and old so its not like he will be scoring from first base on a Hanley gapper so who cares if he walks a lot. I agree it DOES help our team but with recent aquisitions by Phili, St.Loius, SF, resurgance of the Cubs, its going to take luck for us to win the Div or WC

[Omar]

Johnson has a great glove, improving the defense at four positions if he can save throws at first. He also can improve the offense by clogging the bases in front of Hanley, who hits a sparkling .396/.462/.604 with runners on and .424/.486/.630 with RISP

[BigGameFish]

It would have been ideal to get someone to bat 4th because then everyone moves down and suddenly our lineup is very dangerous. But if he is slotted at 2 everyone 4-8 is still one spot higher than they should be.
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Johnson has a great glove, improving the defense at four positions if he can save throws at first. He also can improve the offense by clogging the bases in front of Hanley, who hits a sparkling .396/.462/.604 with runners on and .424/.486/.630 with RISP

It sounds like you are making excuses for this trade. Defense? Seriously? We are looking to upgrade on defense with a player we will only have for 2 months? Sorry 2 months of even Gold Glove defense doesnt even make the difference of 1 win for a team.

[The Hanram]

Moving a bad player to the bench doesnt push you so the playoffs. Putting a .400 OBP in front of Hanley wont make a big difference in the win column. We need a bat BEHIND Hanley not in front of him. Plus NJ is slow and old so its not like he will be scoring from first base on a Hanley gapper so who cares if he walks a lot. I agree it DOES help our team but with recent aquisitions by Phili, St.Loius, SF, resurgance of the Cubs, its going to take luck for us to win the Div or WC

That's silly to base it on luck because everyone has to have luck to win.


That said, I'm not disagreeing with your main points, I just think that you are wrong in thinking that we need a bat behind Hanley rather than someone who gets on base regularly in front of him! Sub Zero already brought up the stats so nuff said.

[Omar]

It would have been ideal to get someone to bat 4th because then everyone moves down and suddenly our lineup is very dangerous. But if he is slotted at 2 everyone 4-8 is still one spot higher than they should be.
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It sounds like you are making excuses for this trade. Defense? Seriously? We are looking to upgrade on defense with a player we will only have for 2 months? Sorry 2 months of even Gold Glove defense doesnt even make the difference of 1 win for a team.

Really? So defense is of no consequence whatsoever?

Also, how can you argue you want someone hitting behind Hanley when he's among the best (if not the best) hitter with runners on this year? Dude is hitting .400 with runners on!!!!! You don't need people behind Hanley (Cantu is already there), you need people for Ramirez to drive in.

[tjfla]

We are gonna make at least 1 move. Either Johnson,Rhodes,or Pavano maybe even 2 of 3 or all 3