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  • #16
    I SOMETIMES feel that tjfla write RANDOM words in upper-clase letters for NO apparent reasons.
    Last edited by Fish and Chips; 04-08-2010, 11:14 PM.
    Originally posted by Matt Wilson
    Fish and Chips just became the smartest man on the board
    Tom Koehler(4-0)
    AAA: 7 GS, 40.2 IP, 2.66 ERA, 34 H, 12 ER, 17 BB, 31 SO, GO/AO 0.87, BAA .233 , 1.25 WHIP

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Daft View Post
      Scouting reports. May sounded like a good time for some scouting reports to catch up to him.
      Something that's caught my eye is that he'll go fishing low and away with 2 strikes. Interested to see if that becomes a trend.
      Originally posted by tjfla View Post
      Don't bring him up already PLEASE

      Still getting over the fact he could have been in Minnesota right now if we acted faster but whatever(O wait Minnesota did NOT have the cash or need for a 2nd baseman according to a few on this board)

      Gotta love the knowledge
      Ken Rosenthal can go fuck himself. You talking in absolutes 24/7 is tiring.

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      • #18
        I love it. Minnesota never made an offer for Uggla, and they're paying O-Dog $2.8 mil less than Uggla, and only have O-Dog for one year without any future arbitration commitment (the Twins have agreed not to offer Hudson arbitration if he qualifies as a Type A free agent).

        Yet Uggla totally could have been in Minnesota. I mean, aside from cost, type of player (Minny ain't gon like Uggz's defense), and lack of interest on the part of the Twins, it was an inevitability if the Marlins would only have pulled the trigger.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Mainge View Post
          Something that's caught my eye is that he'll go fishing low and away with 2 strikes. Interested to see if that becomes a trend.

          Yes.

          He had a terrible at bat on Wednesday night and they got him on the low and away waste pitch.
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          Total thread derailment in 3......2.........1..........
          Last edited by Namaste; 04-08-2010, 11:16 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged

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          • #20
            Yeah, after getting ahead 2-0 and looking at the pitch everybody knew was coming go right down the middle.

            Granted, that was one at bat, but it annoyed me

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            • #21
              To get somewhat back on topic:

              If:

              1.Gaby keeps hitting through July
              2. The team is in contention at the deadline
              AND
              3. The bullpen still sucks

              then:

              Is Logan used as the primary trade bait for a big time bullpen arm, like a Heath Bell (but not the actual Heath Bell, because the Pads already have Adrian Gonzalez at 1B)?

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              • #22
                I would say Gaby is more likely to be traded, ala Hee Seop Choi.
                poop

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                • #23
                  Just some random thoughts and no real response to anything in general other than Ramp's initial thought:

                  I think (about 80% sure) we've already tried the OF route with Logan and are resigned to the fact that he's a 1B and 1B only. With that in mind, and considering Gaby is a butcher defensively anyway, the question then becomes, long term, who'd you rather have, Logan or Gaby? I don't think the two can be starters on the same team, unless we some how add the DH.

                  I also think its more likely we see Gaby at third than Coghlan at 3rd; if Cogs is coming back to the infield it's at second, and we all know that is earmarked for Bonifacio.
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                  Originally posted by wanks1212 View Post

                  Is Logan used as the primary trade bait for a big time bullpen arm, like a Heath Bell (but not the actual Heath Bell, because the Pads already have Adrian Gonzalez at 1B)?
                  That would not shock me.
                  Last edited by Swifty; 04-08-2010, 11:37 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged

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                  • #24
                    Logan played 2 games in LF last year at AA, and maybe some in the AFL or ST last year, but I'm not 100% on that.
                    poop

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                    • #25
                      Given that Logan will probably not hit LHP at first, or at all, and Gaby most certainly will, I'd say they both can relatively coexist. There is 500+ PA for Logan, and probably 400+ for Gaby in this arrangement taking into account interleague DHing and pinch hitting. Dare I say dabble with Gaby at 3B and Logan in LF a little bit and see if they can move around. Especially Gaby, because if he can even fake 3B, talk about a really really positive bench guy if Morrison fully develops and Gaby is pushed out.

                      A bit early to think about it, but I kind of see this arrangement next year

                      C - Baker/Paulino
                      1B - Logan/Gaby
                      2B - Coghlan
                      SS - Hanley
                      3B - Brandon Inge or some other cheap 1 year veteran chump to bat 8th
                      LF - Ross
                      CF - Maybin
                      RF - Stanton

                      Bench - Paulino, Gaby, Boner, Carroll/Peterson/Cousins, and a left handed veteran bat

                      Sure, they could keep Uggla over "chump" and move he or Coghlan to 3B. That would be great if they have the cash for it (Ricky gon b expensive if he pitches like game 1 all year). I could be wrong and they go with the all prospect outfield and jettison Ross too.

                      But the point is, there is room here for both of them. We can't have Helms AND Lamb next year. Beinfest can only sign one veteran for the bench. And really, that's what should happen based on what we have here, assuming of course as the thread indicates, Gaby keeps hitting.

                      So short answer - Nothing happens. We keep both and let them duke it out at the MLB level at 1B/general hitting. Coghlan moves somewhere in the infield.

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                      • #26
                        If Gaby keeps this up wouldn't the likely trade candidate down the road be Matt Dominguez? Gaby would move to third (pretending to play defense there, as someone said lol), Logan at first, CC-Maybin-Stanton in OF, and I would love to see Uggla stay if it's possible...but I doubt that'll happen
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by BigGameFish View Post
                          If Gaby keeps this up wouldn't the likely trade candidate down the road be Matt Dominguez? Gaby would move to third (pretending to play defense there, as someone said lol), Logan at first, CC-Maybin-Stanton in OF, and I would love to see Uggla stay if it's possible...but I doubt that'll happen
                          I don't think so. I think the Marlins are pretty high on Dominguez. If they were to trade anyone, I think they would ship Gabby away even if he does hit all year (But only if they don't have a place to play him). As someone else mentioned I think a platoon of him and Morrison could work out as well over at 1B, also giving Gabby a few starts at 3B.

                          On a side note... I can't remember is Cantu going to be a free agent this off-season or does he have one yr of arbi left? Also same question for Uggla.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by kylekash View Post
                            On a side note... I can't remember is Cantu going to be a free agent this off-season or does he have one yr of arbi left? Also same question for Uggla.
                            Cantu is a free agent. Lock Type B, possibility Type A. He will be gone for sure.

                            Everyone else we have the rights too.

                            Ross and Uggla are 3rd year arbitration eligible after 2010, and become free agents after the 2011 season.

                            Nolasco was a Super 2, so the marlins have two arbitration years left in 2011 and 2012.

                            Nunez, Anibal, Paulino, Pinto, and Veras will be in 2nd year arbitration in 2011, and free agents after 2012.

                            Badenhop, Carroll, Miller, Henlsey, and Tankeresly will all become first year arbitration eligible in 2011 (more than likely. Depends on MLB time, but they each don't need much respectively).

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by wanks1212 View Post
                              To get somewhat back on topic:

                              If:

                              1.Gaby keeps hitting through July
                              2. The team is in contention at the deadline
                              AND
                              3. The bullpen still sucks

                              then:

                              Is Logan used as the primary trade bait for a big time bullpen arm, like a Heath Bell (but not the actual Heath Bell, because the Pads already have Adrian Gonzalez at 1B)?
                              I don't see many Heath Bell-type relievers being on the market this year unless Kansas City decides to deal Soria, which I don't see happening.

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                              • #30
                                There are always good arms available at the break. It will happen.

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