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Don’t count out Uggla to Giants, source cautions
Posted by Andrew Baggarly on December 9th, 2009 at 10:02 pm | Categorized as Uncategorized
Quietly, the Giants are downplaying their interest in Florida Marlins second baseman Dan Uggla. But I’m hearing late tonight that other sources have a different understanding of the club’s level of engagement.
Uggla comes with issues, no doubt. I spelled out most of them in this piece. But he’s still the biggest bat the Giants could acquire via trade or free agency, outside of Matt Holliday or Jason Bay, and lest anyone forget, that’s far and away their greatest need.
Uggla improved overall as a hitter last season, too, boosting his OPS while continuing to hit home runs in a pitcher’s yard. His right-handed pull power is sorely needed at AT&T Park –a commodity the Giants haven’t had since they got glimpses of a healthy Moises Alou in 2005-06. And before that, Jeff Kent.
The source suggested the Giants might be making a subtle misdirection play to get the Florida Marlins to take a lesser return. That might not be necessary, since the Marlins haven’t generated the competition to get a hefty package for the arbitration-eligible slugger. The Orioles are the only other team firmly linked to negotiations.
I understand Uggla would welcome a deal to the Giants, too, for what it’s worth.
Bottom line: We haven’t heard the last word on these Uggla-to-the-Giants rumors yet.
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Maybe Dan Uggla starts the 2010 season in a Florida Marlins uniform
by Joe Capozzi
Had an interesting conversation a few minutes ago with agent Jeff Booris, the agent for Marlins second baseman Dan Uggla.
Jeff met with the Marlins earlier Thursday to talk about his Marlins clients, which include pitcher Anibal Sanchez and first baseman Gaby Sanchez. But he made an interesting comment said about Uggla when I asked if he thought there was any chance of Uggla opening the 2010 season with the Marlins.
“Although it’s been no secret that the Marlins have been actively seeking a trade on Daniel, it is a realistic possibility that he could also be in a Marlins uniform in 2010,’’ said Jeff Booris, Uggla’s agent.
Booris, who met with the Marlins on Thursday, said his belief that Uggla could still start the 2010 season for Florida was “based on my conversations with the club.’’ He declined to elaborate.
It’s been no secret that the Marlins have been having a tough time at the winter meetings trading Uggla. One solution could be for Florida to at least open the 2010 season with Uggla at second base, then trade him in June or July.
That way the Marlins would be only be on the hook for a portion of his contract, which could hit $8 million after arbitration this winter.
Stay tuned…
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Originally posted by The_Godfather View PostWould like to see Boston get back in this especially with them moving Mike Lowell to the Rangers. Hell I wouldn't mind getting back (in a package) the guy they got in return for Lowell, C/1B Max Ramirez.
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Hey, I know it's fun to take what's perceived to be an easy shot (I mean, it's inconceivable HERMIDA has better numbers than anyone, he's the worst player in the history of forever) but Jeremy was 4th on the team in qualified OBP. If you're going to run someone out of town, it probably shouldn't be for having an OBP lower than a player who, if he does nothing else, is relatively good at working walks.
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If we're looking at keeping Uggla, the only thing is Cantu + $2 million dollars. You can get these 2 million in a variety of ways: (1) keeping cheapo bench, (2) ditching anibal, (3) ditching a bigger piece like Miller or Nunez in a trade
C John Baker $415,000
1B Logan Morrison $405,000
2B Dan Uggla $7,750,000
3B Gaby Sanchez $405,000
SS Hanley Ramirez $7,000,000
LF Chris Coghlan $410,000
CF Cameron Maybin $405,000
RF Cody Ross $4,200,000
B Emilio Bonifacio $415,000
B Wes Helms $950,000
B Ronny Paulino $900,000
B Brett Carroll $415,000
B Jorge Jimenez $405,000
SP Josh Johnson $4,500,000
SP Ricky Nolasco $4,250,000
SP Andrew Miller $2,000,000
SP Chris Volstad $415,000
SP Sean West $415,000
RP Leo Nunez $2,000,000
RP Dan Meyer $415,000
RP Brian Sanches $415,000
RP Burke Badenhop $415,000
RP Rick Vanden Hurk $415,000
RP Hunter Jones/Tank $410,000
RP Tim Wood/Chris Leroux $405,000
$40,130,000 (assuming Uggla comes slightly cheaper, I feel this is close enough to $40 number)
Also have Cantu, Anibal, Amezaha, and Pinto to trade to get 'whatever' to add to this.
Depth Chart
C - Baker, Paulino
1B - Morrison, Gaby, Helms
2B - Uggla, Coghlan, Bonifacio
SS - Hanley, Bonifacio
3B - Sanchez, Jimenez, Bonifacio, Coghlan, Helms
LF - Coghlan, Carroll, Morrison(?)
CF - Maybin, Ross, Carroll
RF - Ross, Carroll
I mean it works. Not a lot of margin of error as essentially you must have three of: Maybin, Morrison, Gaby, Jimenez, Carroll, and Bonifacio, turn into solid starters, but that could work itself out as I think all of us have confidence in at least the first two of those guys to not embarrass themselves.
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However, I most definitely like this team better.
C John Baker $415,000
1B Gaby Sanchez $405,000
2B Chris Coghlan $410,000
3B Jorge Cantu $5,500,000
SS Hanley Ramirez $7,000,000
LF Brett Carroll $415,000
CF Cameron Maybin $405,000
RF Cody Ross $4,200,000
B Emilio Bonifacio $415,000
B Wes Helms $950,000
B Ronny Paulino $900,000
B Jorge Jimenez $405,000
B Veteran Lefty Bat $1,500,000
SP Josh Johnson $4,500,000
SP Ricky Nolasco $4,250,000
SP Andrew Miller $2,000,000
SP Chris Volstad $415,000
SP Sean West $415,000
RP Leo Nunez $2,000,000
RP Dan Meyer $415,000
RP Brian Sanches $415,000
RP Burke Badenhop $415,000
RP Rick Vanden Hurk $415,000
RP Hunter Jones/Tank $410,000
RP Anibal Sanchez $1,200,000
$39,770,000
Gaby/Jimenez platoon 1B/3B and you move around Cantu. Let's Morrison stay in AAA for further growth/delaying arbitration reasons, you get to keep Anibal for more pitching depth, and can afford "something" for the bench. Who know's what, even if it's Amezaga, but it's at least money to pay some sort of veteran.
Also, you get something big back for Uggla which could go on above team as well. I don't know if we can say that for Cantu.
Come on Baltimore! You want Uggla! Felix Pie and adding two more pitchers for short and longterm purposes would be so unfathomably perfect for this team.
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Originally posted by nny View Postto me, us keeping Uggla is Loria giving the OK to add him onto payroll for a couple months.
obviously we can't know that though.
I'm down for that.
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Conversation that should be had.
Beinfest: If you expect anything of value to be returned we need to show we will keep a player when we can't reach a deal we like instead of taking the best deal out there which is a lowball offer.
Loria: Well I don't really want to spend the money but we can afford to pay him for a few months but I expect him gone midseason unless we have the division title in our hands.
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