Offseason Discussion - The Bullpen and How it Will Suck

[Fritz]

I want Derrick Turbow. Tom's brother has to be good, right?

[Swifty]

Honestly, given the choice of Nunez or....who? Sanches? I'll take Gregg.

No it's not ideal, but at least you know what you are getting, which is a high WHIP, quasi-effective K pitcher, which gives you at least 2 of those kind of pitchers in the pen in Nunez and Gregg and competition is always a wonderful thing.

Look, it's January 28th, any player signing now is going to get $2 million or less, most of those names will be lucky to get substantially more than the veteran's minimum, at that point, it's a great move. Not as good as bringing back Calero, but still a good move.

[m26555]

Marlins are cautious about signing Kiko Calero because of risk that the veteran's right shoulder may not hold up like it did in '09

http://twitter.com/JoeFrisaro/status/8342175178

[Jay]

http://twitter.com/JoeFrisaro/status/8342175178

which would be solely their fault for using him so much

[m26555]

Remember that time Fredi put Calero in in the ninth inning that game against Colorado when we were up 10-3 and had to play a doubleheader? Good times.

[Bobbob1313]

which would be solely their fault for using him so much

And because he's had a long history of injuries.

As for "their fault". Whatever. He was on a one year contract and had to prove himself. They didn't owe him anything, and should have used him as much as they wanted or needed.

[Swifty]

I'm with bobbob, the organization owes him nothing more than the paycheck he collects. He came in as a non-roster invitee, he thrived, and we needed him to give us innings. Did we always pick the best innings for him, no, but we don't have any extra duty to him because he's an effective yet fragile reliever.

Also, that we're almost into February with him unsigned still as, arguably, the best reliever on the market all winter tells me that there's something scary as all hell in his medical records or he's so disconnected with his expected price tag and his actual market rate (hello, Johnny Damon) and really we shouldn't cater to that. I have a problem with the fact we haven't called him at all, but I'm not bemoaning his loss because if a guy comes off as good a year as he did yet still can't find a job, something's really really fishy there, and his injury problems are no secret.

[Metes]

I'm sure we have a standing offer at 750k or something.

[Bobbob1313]

I think if people consider you "abused" coming off a 60 inning, 67 appearance season, something is wrong.

[Beef]

We should have used Pinto or Lindstrom or Nunez more. Then there would have been less complaining

[m26555]

Ken Rosenthal tweets that the Marlins have made an offer to Kevin Gregg.

Gregg, 31, spent two seasons as the Marlins closer, but would be returning in a setup capacity, according to Rosenthal.

As long as he's not closing, I'm meh with this move.

[wanks1212]

I am in favor of this. More competition for the setup/closer role isn't going to be a bad thing....at least so long as Gregg (or someone else) doesn't completely suck but get to keep a roster spot because they have a ML contract.

[Fish and Chips]

I am in favor of this. More competition for the setup/closer role isn't going to be a bad thing....at least so long as Gregg (or someone else) doesn't completely suck but get to keep a roster spot because they have a ML contract.

This. as long as gregg doesnt get too much.

[lou]

I'd be pretty into

Nunez
Gregg
Sanches
Vanden Hurk
Revolving door right handers Badenhop/Wood/Leroux/MILB
Meyer
Pinto

Cool to me.

[Party]

NO! NO! NO!