5/16 - 5/22 Minor League Game Thread

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People sleeping on Dustin Beggs. He's pitched great and risen each of the last 3 years. The high hit total is a concern but he doesn't walk guys and has been good about keeping balls in the park the last two years.

Beggs is definitely a guy to give a bullpen look at least in September.

[Nick]

Despite his slow start, I think Will Banfield is going to be a pretty good prospect.

[fish16]

Despite his slow start, I think Will Banfield is going to be a pretty good prospect.

Agreed.

[tjfla]

People sleeping on Dustin Beggs. He's pitched great and risen each of the last 3 years. The high hit total is a concern but he doesn't walk guys and has been good about keeping balls in the park the last two years.

Beggs is definitely a guy to give a bullpen look at least in September.

Lee Stone has been touting Beggs for 2 years as a future #1 ML SP. Reality is he is a 5th SP/LR guy at best but like a AAAA pitcher like Ben Meyer is

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Despite his slow start, I think Will Banfield is going to be a pretty good prospect.

Could already be a ML backup with his defense but 3 years from now he could be something special

[fauowls44]

Despite his slow start, I think Will Banfield is going to be a pretty good prospect.

May stats:
Connor Scott - .269/.347/.403
Will Banfield - .269/.296/.493

Nothing great, but huge improvements over April. Hopefully both early draft picks from last year are starting to figure it out.

[Nick]

I love seeing the Power with Banfield at such a young age 7 HRs in 176 ABs at Low-A as an 18/19 year old, because that's not going to go away and should increase from year to year. That combination of Power and Great Defense (he's throwing out 65% of base stealers this year, that's not a typo) is pretty rare.

[fish16]

May stats:
Connor Scott - .269/.347/.403
Will Banfield - .269/.296/.493

Nothing great, but huge improvements over April. Hopefully both early draft picks from last year are starting to figure it out.

and they are both incredibly young still

[fish16]

as someone who didnt understand why we put holloway on the 40 man, let me be the first to tell you i was completely wrong. guy still walks way too many but good god the guy is almost impossible for FSL hitters to hit. guy has a 1.10 WHIP somehow despite 22 walks in 30 innings. Thats absolutely incredible and a testament to his stuff. Hopefully he figures the control out but i am so encouraged by just about every pitching prospect we have except for Neidert who has been hurt and Stewart who has even flashed glimpses at times himself. Holloway, Gallen, Cabrera, Rogers, Garrett, Guzman, Dugger, Yamamoto, and sixto all have ERA's 3.47 with the exception of Yamamoto who is at 3.98 and Sixto who is at 3.74.


Plus, among that group, only Rogers at 1.38, Guzman at 1.27 and sixto at 1.43 have WHIPS above 1.17. In addition, almost all of them are right there at 9+ k's per 9 IP. We have one of the best collective groups of SP prospects in the entire league right now and I dont think that is any kind of stretch any more given the depth and how they've performed.

[Nick]

as someone who didnt understand why we put holloway on the 40 man, let me be the first to tell you i was completely wrong. guy still walks way too many but good god the guy is almost impossible for FSL hitters to hit. guy has a 1.10 WHIP somehow despite 22 walks in 30 innings. Thats absolutely incredible and a testament to his stuff. Hopefully he figures the control out but i am so encouraged by just about every pitching prospect we have except for Neidert who has been hurt and Stewart who has even flashed glimpses at times himself. Holloway, Gallen, Cabrera, Rogers, Garrett, Guzman, Dugger, Yamamoto, and sixto all have ERA's 3.47 with the exception of Yamamoto who is at 3.98 and Sixto who is at 3.74.


Plus, among that group, only Rogers at 1.38, Guzman at 1.27 and sixto at 1.43 have WHIPS above 1.17. In addition, almost all of them are right there at 9+ k's per 9 IP. We have one of the best collective groups of SP prospects in the entire league right now and I dont think that is any kind of stretch any more given the depth and how they've performed.

I mostly agree, but with the Jupiter pitchers I am sorta like well, it's great that they're doing well, but I'll wait until they do it outside of the pitcher's haven that is Jupiter and the FSL before I get too excited. I mean, Rogers, Cabrera and Holloway all had very mediocre stats in Low-A Ball before getting to Jupiter and Braxton Garrett had barely pitched at al professionally before Jupiter.

[fish16]

I mostly agree, but with the Jupiter pitchers I am sorta like well, it's great that they're doing well, but I'll wait until they do it outside of the pitcher's haven that is Jupiter and the FSL before I get too excited. I mean, Rogers, Cabrera and Holloway all had very mediocre stats in Low-A Ball before getting to Jupiter and Braxton Garrett had barely pitched at al professionally before Jupiter.

very fair.

[fish16]

and yamamoto now with 7 no hit innings today so his ERA is now 3.42 and his WHIP is now 1.02. Other than the Padres and Braves i dont see another system with the quality SP depth like we have. I love how the front office seemed to have prioritized guys who actually produce results and low walks and high k's as opposed to a lot of what we used to do which was just obsess over talent and stuff that never really seemed to put up the numbers to back up the hype. The 2 examples of that that jump off the top of my head for some reason was Jarred Cosart and Sean West. Guys with "stuff" but who never had the minor league success, especially in terms of WHIP, which is 1 stat to me in evaluating minor league starting pitching that is absolutely critical.

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i forgot who said it but whoever brought up the point of sierra not stealing bases is absolutely right. There is no reason with his speed that he shouldnt be stealing significantly more bags, and with his lack of power its kind of critical that he can be impactful in other ways. He is statistically one of if not the fastest guys in the league. He should be out there at the very least attempting steals like Monte has been doing this year.

[geemoney]

5/20

AAA New Orleans: W, 5-2

Y.Rivera: 1-4, RBI, K
Brinson: 1-4, R, RBI, 2 K
Holaday: 1-3, RBI, BB
Galloway: 1-4, R, HR (5), RBI, 3 K
G.Guerrero: 1-1, R, HR (5), RBI
Meyer: W, 6 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 7 K, 1 HRA
Kickham: 1 IP, 1 H, 3 K

AA Jacksonville: W, 5-1

Miller: 2-4, R, CS
Bird: 2-4, R, RBI, SB
Dunand: 2-4, R, RBI
Brigman: 1-4, R, RBI, K
Millan: 1-4, RBI, K
Seymour: 1-3, R, 2B
Yamamoto: W, 7 IP, 1 BB, 4 K
J.Kinley: .2 IP, 1 H, 1 K

A+ Jupiter: L, 15-3

Mesa: 1-4, R, K
Alonso: 2-4, R, RBI
Nelson: 2-4, 2B, RBI
Soto: 0-4, RBI, 3 K
Braley: L, 6 IP, 11 H, 7 R, 6 ER, 1 BB, 6 K, 2 HRA
Hock: .1 IP, 4 H, 7 R, 6 ER, 2 BB, 1 K

A Clinton: W, 6-1 (8 Innings - Game One)

C.Scott: 1-3, R, BB, CS
Banfield: 2-4, R, 2 RBI, 2 K
Sims: 2-4, RBI
M.Rivera: 1-2, R, RBI, BB
Mejia: W, 8 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 8 K

A Clinton: W. 2-1 (Game Two - Makeup of 4/14 Postponement)

C.Scott: 2-3, R, 2B, RBI
Sims: 1-3, 2 K
Reynolds: 0-3, RBI, 2 K
Cespedes: 1-2, R, 3B
Ty.Jones: 2.1 IP, 4 H, 2 K
Guenther: W, 3.2 IP, 2 H, 6 K
Baird: SV, 1 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 1 K

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Lee Stone has been touting Beggs for 2 years as a future #1 ML SP. Reality is he is a 5th SP/LR guy at best but like a AAAA pitcher like Ben Meyer is

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Could already be a ML backup with his defense but 3 years from now he could be something special

LOL I am 100% NOT calling him a future ace...Just that he could be a Koehler type that looks like AAAA filler then suddenly becomes a low end rotation fixture for a while by surprise.

[Lee Stone]

LOL I am 100% NOT calling him a future ace...Just that he could be a Koehler type that looks like AAAA filler then suddenly becomes a low end rotation fixture for a while by surprise.

Speaking of Meyer, he was great today.

When it comes to arms in the minors, it seemed silly for the Braves to have like 7 or 8 pitchers among the top 100 prospects last year. Sillier still, the Marlin guys are definitely better and more numerous now. Problem is, we have next to no hitters.

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and yamamoto now with 7 no hit innings today so his ERA is now 3.42 and his WHIP is now 1.02. Other than the Padres and Braves i dont see another system with the quality SP depth like we have. I love how the front office seemed to have prioritized guys who actually produce results and low walks and high k's as opposed to a lot of what we used to do which was just obsess over talent and stuff that never really seemed to put up the numbers to back up the hype. The 2 examples of that that jump off the top of my head for some reason was Jarred Cosart and Sean West. Guys with "stuff" but who never had the minor league success, especially in terms of WHIP, which is 1 stat to me in evaluating minor league starting pitching that is absolutely critical.

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i forgot who said it but whoever brought up the point of sierra not stealing bases is absolutely right. There is no reason with his speed that he shouldnt be stealing significantly more bags, and with his lack of power its kind of critical that he can be impactful in other ways. He is statistically one of if not the fastest guys in the league. He should be out there at the very least attempting steals like Monte has been doing this year.

The exact same thing should be said of Victor Victor, who is even more lacking in power.

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I will say it was absolutely asinine to send Victor Victor Mesa, in his first minor league experience, to a place that is notoriously hard for hitters. It's like they wanted to kill his confidence. Would've been better to send him to AA than Jupiter.