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  • #16
    Jennings in the teens
    Andrelczyk low 20 ,s
    Koehler high teens low 20's
    villanueva mid -high 20's
    Hand good where you have him
    I like Pitchers

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    • #17
      Also, can you guys tell me about

      Olmos, who hasn't done anything but you guys ranked top 15
      C. Petersen and Graham, who have done nothing special compared to the "RP guys" and weren't top picks
      Hodges, who is a prep arm

      Just curious how these guys slip into other top 30s where I only see minor league depth right now.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by lou View Post
        Also, can you guys tell me about

        Olmos, who hasn't done anything but you guys ranked top 15
        C. Petersen and Graham, who have done nothing special compared to the "RP guys" and weren't top picks
        Hodges, who is a prep arm

        Just curious how these guys slip into other top 30s where I only see minor league depth right now.

        I have Olmos on my top 15 mainly because of projection, (lefty, 6ft 5in and only 180) intangibles (Scholarship to play at Arizona, which tells me pretty good talent), present stuff (Plus change-up already, works in upper 80's and hits low 90's on occasion, good feel for secondary pitches).

        C. Petersen(25) - good overhand curve, works mainly high's 80's but can hit 94 mph on occasion, and has a good projectable frame and work ethic.

        G. Johnson(21) - electric raw stuff, very projectable. His numbers might have been more impressive this year but supposedly remade his delivery with the help of pitching coordinator Wayne Rosenthal. Turned down a scholarship to play at Fresno State.

        J. Hodges(26) - extremely high on him, from what I have gathered the only reason he was their for us to take in the 7th rd was because he was hard to scout due to his relatively remote location and small school success. Presently works in the 92-94 mph range and peaks at 96. At 6-7 and 235 lbs still has lots of projection left which is the best part.

        I feel pretty good ranking these 4 guys over the likes of lets say....Alejandro Sanabia??? because of potential, projection, and present stuff. I would say this I was higher on Sanabia(32) until I read this about him:


        Background: Just 20, Sanabia’s star has risen considerably this year. Coming into the game he was sporting a sub-2.00 ERA and nearly four-to-one K:BB, striking out 42 and allowing just two home runs in 57 IP. He’s started to garner a fair share of attention as an intriguing sleeper prospect.

        What I saw: If I met Sanabia on the street and he told me he was a high-school second baseman, I would believe him. The 6’1” listing on the Hammerheads website seems generous, and he’s quite skinny. He fields his position very well and is athletic.

        Sanabia seemed to be overthrowing a bit. He needs to break the habit of flying open with his front shoulder, which leaves the fastball high. I can’t blame him for trying, though; the fastball was mostly sitting between 85-87, and he only got up to 89 twice. It’s got good run, but not a lot of sink.

        It took me (and two of the scouts I was sitting with) a couple innings to get a read on his offspeed pitches. What turned out to be a changeup, we first thought to be some sort of Brad-Lidge-esque slider (where it’s more vertically oriented than most sliders). Later, he started throwing his real slider more, and the difference became obvious.

        The changeup, despite coming in only a few clicks off his facebook (80-81), is a darn good pitch. He doesn’t telegraph it a bit, which is the key, and he commands it decently. It’s got strong dive to it. The slider (also 80-81) was effective when down in the zone. The problem is, he was missing high with it quite often. Sort of "getting under it," as they say. It’s not looking like a future plus pitch right now, but if he learns to harness it, it will give right-handed batters a little more to think about when facing him.
        http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/ar...outing-report/

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        • #19
          what about how well some of these guys are doing now
          some pitchers have moved up and been more effective
          projection is great
          but proof is in pudding

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          • #20
            Originally posted by fishy View Post
            what about how well some of these guys are doing now
            some pitchers have moved up and been more effective
            projection is great
            but proof is in pudding
            Well none of these guys are embarrassing themselves at the moment.

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            • #21
              The changeup, despite coming in only a few clicks off his facebook (80-81), is a darn good pitch.
              hehe
              Originally posted by Matt Wilson
              Fish and Chips just became the smartest man on the board
              Tom Koehler(4-0)
              AAA: 7 GS, 40.2 IP, 2.66 ERA, 34 H, 12 ER, 17 BB, 31 SO, GO/AO 0.87, BAA .233 , 1.25 WHIP

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              • #22
                1. Mike Stanton
                2. Logan Morrison
                3. Matt Dominguez
                4. Brad Hand
                5. Marquis Cooper
                6. Peter Andrelczyk
                7. Kyle Kaminska
                8. Alejandro Sanabia
                9. Jay Voss
                10. Blake Brewer
                11. Kyle Skipworth
                12. Graham Johnson
                13. Issac Galloway
                14. Steven Cischek
                15. Bryan Peterson
                16. Jake Smolinski
                17. Bryan Peterson
                18. Scott Cousins
                19. Brian Berglund
                20. Edgar Olmos
                21. Chad James
                22. Kyle Winters
                23. Ryan Tucker
                24. Skyler Crawford
                25. Curtis Petersen
                26. Dan Jennings
                27. Tom Koehler
                28. Jose Ceda
                29. Carlos Paulino
                30. Daniel Pertusati
                Last edited by Todd; 11-18-2009, 04:25 PM.
                Amy Adams, AKA Cinnamon Muff
                Logan Morrison: "If baseball didn't exist, I would probably be ... like a curler. Or a hairstylist."
                Noah Perio
                Jupiter
                39 AB
                15 H
                0 2B
                0 3B
                0 HR
                0 BB
                .385/.385/.385

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                • #23
                  really?

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                  • #24
                    thats why its a free country???

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                    • #25
                      Doesnt mean he's remotely close to being right.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Todd View Post
                        1. Mike Stanton
                        2. Logan Morrison
                        3. Matt Dominguez
                        4. Brad Hand
                        5. Marquis Cooper
                        6. Peter Andrelczyk
                        7. Kyle Kaminska
                        8. Alejandro Sanabia
                        9. Jay Voss
                        10. Blake Brewer
                        11. Kyle Skipworth
                        12. Graham Johnson
                        13. Issac Galloway
                        14. Steven Cischek
                        15. Bryan Peterson
                        16. Jake Smolinski
                        17. Bryan Peterson
                        18. Scott Cousins
                        19. Brian Berglund
                        20. Edgar Olmos
                        21. Chad James
                        22. Kyle Winters
                        23. Ryan Tucker
                        24. Skyler Crawford
                        25. Curtis Petersen
                        26. Dan Jennings
                        27. Tom Koehler
                        28. Jose Ceda
                        29. Carlos Paulino
                        30. Daniel Pertusati
                        i agree with the top 3, but the other 27 meh
                        But seriously, Sanchez doesnt even stiff your top 30?
                        Last edited by Fish and Chips; 11-18-2009, 05:13 PM.
                        Originally posted by Matt Wilson
                        Fish and Chips just became the smartest man on the board
                        Tom Koehler(4-0)
                        AAA: 7 GS, 40.2 IP, 2.66 ERA, 34 H, 12 ER, 17 BB, 31 SO, GO/AO 0.87, BAA .233 , 1.25 WHIP

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                        • #27
                          I dont see whats wrong with my list but whatever. It is all subjective in the first place.
                          Amy Adams, AKA Cinnamon Muff
                          Logan Morrison: "If baseball didn't exist, I would probably be ... like a curler. Or a hairstylist."
                          Noah Perio
                          Jupiter
                          39 AB
                          15 H
                          0 2B
                          0 3B
                          0 HR
                          0 BB
                          .385/.385/.385

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                          • #28
                            Andrelczyk is probably not in the top 30, let alone our 6th best prospect.

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                            • #29
                              1) Chris Seddon
                              God would be expecting a first pitch breaking ball in the dirt because humans love to disappoint him.
                              - Daft

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                              • #30
                                1) Mike Stanton
                                2) Matt Dominguez
                                3) Logan Morrison (oh yes I went there. I'll have more later, but unless Logan approaches a .900 OPS guy and/or Dominguez struggles to put anything above .700, the fact that Dominugez is an elite defense 3b puts him over Logan)
                                4) Smolinski
                                5) Gaby
                                6) Cousins
                                7) Petersen

                                Gaby, Cousins, and Petersen really are all basically interchangable though.

                                Not even going to bother trying to touch (tnstaa) pitching prospects outside of not to overvalue relievers, and hitters after this is just an argument of what you think their potential is.

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