CSBC Financials

[FishFanInPA]

To everyone in Ducks division, im going to trade my best players for nothing.

[THE_REAL_MIBS]

How did I miss this train wreck?

I really don't understand the problem here. Let's see, the "problems" voiced:

(1) A team can horde cash considerations

reality:nope, it's only a $5 million +/- threshold. No team can sell off excess cap space nor can a team go for broke with a $100 million payroll

(2) What's to stop a team from continually operating at $80 million, they can always operate at $80 million!

reality Well, sure, just like any team can trade for the top pitcher at the deadline, but eventually your organizational resources get consumed. Maybe someone has enough players to make a move time and time and time again for the cash considerations, but I'll bet against it being good for the long term outlook as well as the short term outlook

(3) Owners can collude to send each other their cap space!

reality Owners could collude to send each other their best players too, this is just absurd to voice as a concern. The problem here doesn't derive from the cash exemption, the problem here derives from lack of trust. Ask yourself a simple question: 'do you trust _______ to get the best deal possible for his best player?' If the answer was 'yes' before you found out about the exemption, then seriously, stop nagging. Crimson Cane and I talk a lot, I can promise you I'm not going to give him a cut-rate deal on any cap space, nor Scott Kazmir

Okay, let me address this.

I'm not talking about hoarding cash. I'm talking about a situation where an owner would be able to get 2-3 players that are average to good when the other owners can't. Bobbob still has $2 million in cap space left after this transaction. He can still make another trade or sign a free agent to upgrade a $350,000 player to get a guy earning $1.65 million. That's a whole extra player right there.

As for the year after year thing, we're still going to be doing drafts. A player would still be able to keep trading their first round pick (whether it's the one they just drafted or their draft pick for the next year) to keep getting the extra $5 million. That's not going to deplete anybody's team that much.

As for the collusion, I'm not saying that it can't happen. I'm just saying that this opens that door for another way to do it.

As for trust, we have a bunch of new owners here that most of us know nothing about. I'm a very trusting person but the fact is, most of us don't know shit about the other owners. While I had a TBBC team, it was only for about a month so I don't know much about this, either.

[Beef]

I'm also not and have never said that Bobbob got the $5 million for nothing. My point is that it gives Bobbob an edge on the field RIGHT NOW because he can have a player that is better than the rest of us can have unless we try to go find another NNY that doesn't care about winning this year. That is what is unfair.

Mibba, come on. OH MY GOSH, SERIOUSLY, COME ON!!!! THIS IS SO SILLY!!!!

If I had a team I would call a meeting with the commish and complain if I was not in first place that the first place team has an edge on the field right NOW!

[FishFanInPA]

Beef, goddamnit, join Matt Wilson and I in collusion

[Swifty]

As for the year after year thing, we're still going to be doing drafts. A player would still be able to keep trading their first round pick (whether it's the one they just drafted or their draft pick for the next year) to keep getting the extra $5 million. That's not going to deplete anybody's team that much.

Keep trading your first round pick every year and see how that works.

As a matter of fact, I'll make a standing offer to trade you my $5 mil every season for you first round pick.

Every

Single

Year

[Beef]

MattWilson, I do not trust that you have decided to collude with Phippa nor do I believe that Phippa knows what it means to collude.

[FishFanInPA]

Beef, I know what collusion is and yes, M-Dub has joined me. He's my Collusionary GM.

[Beef]

How do I find out if ducks negged me or positiv'd me?

[Metes]

You can't, his reps are like squirts of piss in the ocean
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Fip, I said I would collide, not collude. Collide my veiny penis betwixt your virgin buttocks.

[Beef]

Yeah, I know, it's like such a tease. I assume it is impossible to know unless he tells you. Ducks, next to you neg me, please explain that you have negg'd me and not positiv'd me in the comment like of the neg or pos. Thanks ducks.

[FishFanInPA]

Ducks just greyed me and asked "Do you use copious amounts of cocaine" "Wanna smoke a sausage" and "Annoying isn't it"

[nny]

I'll trade you my 5 mil AND my third round pick for your first round picks every year.

bidding war time

[Mainge]

Okay, let me address this.

I'm not talking about hoarding cash. I'm talking about a situation where an owner would be able to get 2-3 players that are average to good when the other owners can't. Bobbob still has $2 million in cap space left after this transaction. He can still make another trade to upgrade a $350,000 player to get a guy earning $1.65 million. That's a whole extras player right there.

As for the year after year thing, we're still going to be doing drafts. A player would still be able to keep trading their first round pick (whether it's the one they just drafted or their draft pick for the next year) to keep getting the extra $5 million. That's not going to deplete anybody's team that much.

As for the collusion, I'm not saying that it can't happen. I'm just saying that this opens that door for another way to do it.

As for trust, we have a bunch of new owners here that most of us know nothing about. I'm a very trusting person but the fact is, most of us don't know shit about the other owners. While I had a TBBC team, it was only for about a month so I don't know much about this, either.

Yes they can! Yes they can! Yes they can! Anyone can do what Bobbob did.

If Bobbob keeps trading his first round picks, I will laugh so hard. The majority of first round picks cost less and are as good/better than anyone you can get for 5m.

C'mon Mba. This is ridiculous.

[Metes]

I'll trade anyone a bucket of my enchilada farts for their second-worst fake lefty reliever at the fake A-ball level.

[penis34]

Ducks just greyed me and asked "Do you use copious amounts of cocaine" "Wanna smoke a sausage" and "Annoying isn't it"

Annoying right?

Like 15 of these?