CSBC Financials

[AdamRavs]

like mainge said its like trading a player for cash considerations.. its not cheating. its part of the game.. its not like your just get 5mil for nothing

[penis34]

This is just really awful. Horribly awful. Its been pretty much been proven over and over again why it's not cheating, how it's not unfair, and how there's virtually no difference between that and other forms of trading, but rather it's another option.

Ducks is just doing it to be 'that' guy. He loves the fact that everyone hates him and he can pull the "Everyone hates me, woah is me" card.

Mba I dont understand. She's not stupid.Yeah her attachment to Volstad is perplexing but she knows whats up generally, why keep fighting it. These have been the rules from the get go. Why this? Why not now? What about the contract exceptions? Wouldnt it be cheating to get Albert Pujols for 5m? That would be massively unfair using your vantage point.

If this goes to a vote of some kind, I'm going to be pissed. Because it's going to shot down quicker than a coke whore and it'll be a colossal waste of time.

The thing is, I'm not doing this to be that guy though. I really believe it puts other owners at a competive disadvantage.

NNY, the reason why the 5 Million thing isn't unfair is that it was used to put you under the cap if you needed it. Not only that, but it pisses off the players you do that to, making it impossible to resign them. Look at soriano and matthews in my case. Both are so pissed, you'd swear they were owners in this league.

The contract out clause isn't a advantage as your saying, it's a disadvantage.

[THE_REAL_MIBS]

I already said that I don't need cap room. I still have $16 million which actually went down from the $32 million I used to have before I used the major league contracts.

The actual trading of money I didn't have a problem with until I learned that it would allows teams to go over the cap. That is what I have a problem with. You can get a good player with that extra $5 million. I just checked my roster and I have some good players but only 5 of them make more that $5 million. It still allows for a team to be better than the others.

It's one thing with saying that anyone can do it while just 1 person has but what would the talent level on the field look like if 11 teams used it? It's the difference in talent on the field that I have a problem with. The whole point of having a salary cap is to prevent teams from being better than other teams that don't either have or want to spend the money but we are throwing the whole design of the cap out the window if we allow it.

[Metes]

Ducks, I will be your friend

[nny]

For a response of why you are wrong, read the other 100 posts in this thread

[penis34]

Ducks, I will be your friend

I love you Matt.

[MiamiHomer]

I love you Matt.

I don't love you.

[penis34]

For a response of why you are wrong, read the other 100 posts in this thread

For a response as to why YOU are wrong, read the other 100 posts you neglected in this thread.
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I don't love you.

Is it because I cheated on you that one time at the company picnic with the hot secretary.

You aren't stupid enough to believe I'd turn down that Grade A piece of ass are you sweety.

Beside, your old and used up anyway. I tore you up baby.

Just move on baby, you were only a bed to me anyway.

[Party]

Picture a guy, 20 years old, shaggy hair, three days of growth and two tissues sticking out of his nose and you will get a picture of what I look like as I read this thread.
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SRZ BIZNESS

[Metes]

Festa knows how to get me all hot and bothered

[Mainge]

I already said that I don't need cap room. I still have $16 million which actually went down from the $32 million I used to have before I used the major league contracts.

The actual trading of money I didn't have a problem with until I learned that it would allows teams to go over the cap. That is what I have a problem with. You can get a good player with that extra $5 million. I just checked my roster and I have some good players but only 5 of them make more that $5 million. It still allows for a team to be better than the others.

It's one thing with saying that anyone can do it while just 1 person has but what would the talent level on the field look like if 11 teams used it? It's the difference in talent on the field that I have a problem with. The whole point of having a salary cap is to prevent teams from being better than other teams that don't either have or want to spend the money but we are throwing the whole design of the cap out the window if we allow it.

This money isnt just being magically granted out of some magic asshole. Bobbob gave up a prospect to get it. So if 11 teams did that, half of them will get the money and the other half will get a damn good 'spec. Nny is minor league system whore and probably would have traded his whole majors draft for the whole minors draft. Thats just how he plays.

In a few seasons from now, Nny's farm is going to be more stacked than Sean Wests' cab driver. A few more years after that, his team is going to be a cost controlled rape machine that will dominate until its too expensive to keep. Bobbob likes the proven commodity, so he's more likely to give up a spec or two to keep a more expensive core together. Eventually he'll run out of specs and his players will get older and he'll have to rebuild. It'll be more difficult for him because he's gave up the future for 6% more space. Six fucking percent. It's less than you pay for sales tax for fucks sake.

[CrimsonCane]

I already said that I don't need cap room. I still have $16 million which actually went down from the $32 million I used to have before I used the major league contracts.

The actual trading of money I didn't have a problem with until I learned that it would allows teams to go over the cap. That is what I have a problem with. You can get a good player with that extra $5 million. I just checked my roster and I have some good players but only 5 of them make more that $5 million. It still allows for a team to be better than the others.

It's one thing with saying that anyone can do it while just 1 person has but what would the talent level on the field look like if 11 teams used it? It's the difference in talent on the field that I have a problem with. The whole point of having a salary cap is to prevent teams from being better than other teams that don't either have or want to spend the money but we are throwing the whole design of the cap out the window if we allow it.

What would the minor league system look like for the 11 teams who received a prospect in exchange for $5 million??? IT'S A TWO-WAY STREET!! WHY IS THIS SO DIFFICULT!?

[Omar]

I feel it is my duty to give Ducks 4,000,000,000 rep, so the discussion is more fair.

[Metes]

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[Swifty]

How did I miss this train wreck?

I really don't understand the problem here. Let's see, the "problems" voiced:

(1) A team can horde cash considerations

reality:nope, it's only a $5 million +/- threshold. No team can sell off excess cap space nor can a team go for broke with a $100 million payroll

(2) What's to stop a team from continually operating at $80 million, they can always operate at $80 million!

reality Well, sure, just like any team can trade for the top pitcher at the deadline, but eventually your organizational resources get consumed. Maybe someone has enough players to make a move time and time and time again for the cash considerations, but I'll bet against it being good for the long term outlook as well as the short term outlook

(3) Owners can collude to send each other their cap space!

reality Owners could collude to send each other their best players too, this is just absurd to voice as a concern. The problem here doesn't derive from the cash exemption, the problem here derives from lack of trust. Ask yourself a simple question: 'do you trust _______ to get the best deal possible for his best player?' If the answer was 'yes' before you found out about the exemption, then seriously, stop nagging. Crimson Cane and I talk a lot, I can promise you I'm not going to give him a cut-rate deal on any cap space, nor Scott Kazmir