Ryan Braun Named NL MVP

[Omar]

I think it has more to do with his being a star who is personable more than anything

[Beef]

Yeah, I agree with Omar. Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens were treated the way they were treated because people see them as douchefaces.

[Madman81]

And Ryan Braun was treated the way he was because he's a marketable white star.

[Bobbob1313]

I think there are a lot of factors involved in how we perceive players and how the media treats them, and race is one of them.

[Beef]

What about when the media treats black fellas well?

[Bobbob1313]

What about when the media treats black fellas well?

I didn't say race is the only or even primary motivating factor.

[Beef]

And Ryan Braun was treated the way he was because he's a marketable white star.

Maybe he was treated the way he was treated because people had certain information that was to be believed?

[MiamiHomer]

And Ryan Braun was treated the way he was because he's a marketable white star.

You think it would have gone differently if it was Albert Pujols in this situation?

[Bobbob1313]

Maybe he was treated the way he was treated because people had certain information that was to be believed?

I fail to see what information those people had that caused them to give Braun the benefit of the doubt. Do you have links?

Buster Olney knew the courrier MLB hired to transport his sample didn't have a smart phone and couldn't check if FedEx/Kinkos was still open?

[Beef]

I didn't say race is the only or even primary motivating factor.

I didn't say you did. I'm asking what role it plays when the media treats a black player with the same respect they have for a white player? There is still race involved as a motivating factor?

[Bobbob1313]

I didn't say you did. I'm asking what role it plays when the media treats a black player with the same respect they have for a white player? There is still race involved as a motivating factor?

I think certain players are given the benefit of the doubt for certain actions, and perceptions are altered, consciously or otherwise, by race.

Hanley gets killed seemingly weekly for his lack of attention to the game, and nobody in the media blinks when Jack McKeon calls out Logan Morrison for his lack of attention to the game. Is this a color blind process?

I think part of that is a reputation both players have cultivated, but part of it is also the result of ingrained biases about how certain "types" of players go about the game.

[Namaste]

Twitter: Letting you see the illogical things people you like for their athletic prowess say since 2009 (or, whenever it started.)

Man, twitter is the fricking worst.

[Madman81]

Maybe he was treated the way he was treated because people had certain information that was to be believed?

Maybe, but I think race had a lot to do with the decision.

You think it would have gone differently if it was Albert Pujols in this situation?

I do. Remember that Manny Ramirez guy?

What about when the media treats black fellas well?

I'm not saying anything about the media in this thread.

[Beef]

I fail to see what information those people had that caused them to give Braun the benefit of the doubt. Do you have links?

Buster Olney knew the courrier MLB hired to transport his sample didn't have a smart phone and couldn't check if FedEx/Kinkos was still open?

I don't. I said maybe. Do you have links that shows they did not have credible information or get information from people that they have relied on for stories many times in the past? Jeez, your post was fuckin dumb.

[Madman81]

Oh if the media comment wasn't directed at me at all then ignore my last line.