Greinke

[PitchingWinsGames]

I'm a fan of when people look at trades (potential or otherwise) and forget these things don't happen in a vacuum. With what Halladay and Lee have done in the past couple years, an NL team should be highly interested in moving another relatively dominant AL starter to this league and pay out the backside to do it.

You pretty much have to overpay for a guy like Greinke or any other big time player, so Hugg said it best, if you're not seriously going to try to get him, just don't even bother/try.

[THE_REAL_MIBS]

Regardless of the offer of who we would give the Royals, trying to get him shouldn't even be on our radar. We have a LOT more pressing needs on this team than adding another high priced starter. Assuming Loria somehow did agree to spend an additional $13.5 million (which I highly doubt), we'd be much better served using that money on some relievers, a catcher and maybe a bench guy or two that play good defense. Starting pitching is the last thing on our lists of needs. We're not the Yankees. We don't have a $100 million payroll and never will. We can't just go get high priced guys and create a super roster.

[HUGG]

I disagree. We have 2.5 good starting pitchers (Nolasco's good about half the time).

[emkayseven]

I disagree also. Plus you could argue that a starting pitcher strengthens our bullpen by way of moving a starter to the pen.

Regardless, this is silly. KC would have to get blown away by an offer, I highly doubt they're looking to sell him quickly and on the cheap because that just doesn't make sense.

[TealMonster08]

I disagree. We have 2.5 good starting pitchers (Nolasco's good about half the time).

No, we have 3 Good starters, 1 for JJ, 1 for Sanchy, .5 for Nolasco, and .5 based on Volstads clickish September, how could you forget that?

[MiamiHomer]

No, the "clicking" for Volstad was 5th starter quality.
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So I'd put it at like .027 for Volstad

[THE_REAL_MIBS]

A Greinke deal doesn't fit these teams:

10. Florida Marlins. They'd be paying about $20 million and then $26 million to Josh Johnson and Greinke over the next couple of years if they made a deal. That's not really their style.

Zach Greinke's most likely destination

I can't post more than that in here because it's an insider article. If you want to read the rest, you know what to do.
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I disagree also. Plus you could argue that a starting pitcher strengthens our bullpen by way of moving a starter to the pen.

Regardless, this is silly. KC would have to get blown away by an offer, I highly doubt they're looking to sell him quickly and on the cheap because that just doesn't make sense.

We would not have any starters to move to the bullpen if you trade one to get Greinke. As we saw in September, we don't have a lot of depth to be moving starters to the bullpen and will probably have less assuming we dump Miller.

[Swifty]

I really like how mba's argument is "it's an awful idea, we'll be paying him more money than Nolasco."

[Mainge]

She's never really said that ever.

[FishFanInPA]

Might as well see if they'll throw Soria in too.

[emkayseven]

if we add in mendez and sanabia they might do it! they owe soria lots of money

[Swifty]

Highly doubt we'd ever go after him. He's due $13.5 million next year. Why would we trade two projected starters making the major league minimum (Logan and Volstad) for a guy who projects to make more than Ricky?

uhhhhhhh, Mainge...

[Mainge]

I think it's not, she doesn't want to see that. It's more, why would the notoriously cheap Marlins do that.

My comment has nothing to do with Volstad. I would say the same thing if the two projected starters were Logan and pick any of the guys making major league minimum that's projected to start next year. Do you really think that this team would dump two guys that they don't have to pay for so they can add $13.5 million in payroll? And that's on top of trying to resign Ricky and Uggla? That's what I meant.

Context clues, FTW.

[THE_REAL_MIBS]

Yeah, sorry I don't have everyone's salaries in front of me. I wasn't sure what JJ was making to say that he'd be making more than JJ. I just knew he'd be making more than Ricky and that that would give us 3 starting pitchers taking up almost half of what our payroll was this year. Add in Hanley and Anibal and we're getting really close to what our payroll was this year.

[HUGG]

We could just trade Nolasco, who is gonna get more money than he's worth anyway (and I like Ricky)

It's still a major upgrade. Greinke would be very good in the NL.