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  • This is one of the rare instances where baseball observing its traditions has hurt the game.

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    • I wouldn't be shocked if some decree from the MLB came down and they award the guy a perfect game. I just cannot see it not happening.
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      • I only see it happening if expanded replay is going to be instituted very soon.

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        • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
          I wouldn't be shocked if some decree from the MLB came down and they award the guy a perfect game. I just cannot see it not happening.
          I don't think it will, because then what about all of the other game-changing calls that were blown in the game's history? It wouldn't set a very good precedent.

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          • Galaragga will present Joyce with the lineup card today

            Joyce is behind the plate

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            • Originally posted by Valid View Post
              I don't think it will, because then what about all of the other game-changing calls that were blown in the game's history? It wouldn't set a very good precedent.
              Yes it would. It would be saying, "Accuracy is paramount."

              As for those old games, time has passed. This game happened yesterday. Consider there to be a statute of limitations on when MLB can get it right.

              This is also unaffected because the Tigers ended the game on the very next play and no one else got a hit or anything. You give Galaraga his perfect game and whoever hit after Donald gets one less at bat.

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              • The Pine Tar Incident was reversed by the league.

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                • Man, gotta feel for Joyce. Dude is torn up.
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                  poor guy walked out onto the field in tears.
                  Last edited by FishFF; 06-03-2010, 01:04 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged

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                  • Originally posted by Festa View Post
                    The Pine Tar Incident was reversed by the league.
                    judgement call vs. interpretation of the rule. I think it's a different situation. Just like you can't protest games over judgement calls, balls and strikes, etc.

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                    • pretty impressive how classy everyone involved in this thing has been

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                      • Selig just released a statement. Seems to move in the direction of possibly overturning the call and moving towards reply.

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                        • Other reports suggest he will not be overturning the call

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                          • Baseball comissioner Bud Selig said he would look at the game's umpiring system and the expanded use of instant replay, but would not reverse the blown call that cost Armando Galarraga of the Detroit Tigers a perfect game on Wednesday night.

                            "While the human element has always been an integral part of baseball, it is vital that mistakes on the field be addressed," Selig said in a statement. "Given last night's call and other recent events, I will examine our umpiring system, the expanded use of instant replay and all other related features."

                            Selig said he would consult with baseball's labor unions and the game's special committee for on-field matters before announcing any decisions.

                            Selig also praised umpire Jim Joyce, whose blown call in the bottom of the ninth cost Galarraga the perfect game, as well as Galarraga and Tigers manager Jim Leyland for the way they handled the situation.

                            "The dignity and class of the entire Detroit Tigers organization under such circumstances were truly admirable and embodied good sportsmanship of the highest order," Selig said. "[Galarraga] and Detroit manager Jim Leyland are to be commended for their handling of a very difficult situation.

                            "I also applaud the courage of umpire Jim Joyce to address this unfortunate situation honestly and directly. Jim's candor illustrates why he has earned the respect of on-field personnel throughout his accomplished career in the Major Leagues since 1989," Selig said.
                            http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5248118

                            Yeah, I took it as he was going to speak to all parties involving both issues. I guess he meant just for replay.

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                            • I don't think it would kill the tradition of the game if a manager could once or twice a game request the umpires take a look at a replay of the play.
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                              • The college football system would be perfect for baseball. Baseball rulings, especially force outs, are so cut and dry that I can't imagine many reviews would take longer than 30 seconds.

                                I mean ESPN found indisputable proof within 10 seconds of the call being made last night.

                                The most difficult thing, I imagine, would be to decide what to do with baserunners on a trap/catch call in the outfield.

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