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  • Originally posted by Todd View Post
    I would really like the Marlins to get another rookie team in either the Appalachian or Pioneer League if they are truly serious about changing the player development philosophy at the club.
    They would never go to the Pioneer League but I am with u. I wish they would jump into the Appy League.

    2 BIG issues are #1 they don't have enough players. Most teams that are in both the leagues have 2 GCL/AZL AND 2 DSL teams. #2 Most Appy League teams are owned by the ML teams

    Was rumor we tried to get the Greeneville Astors but Cincy got them

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    Originally posted by fish16 View Post
    Why? What difference would that make? Not even being snarky, legit question. We have just as many minor league affiliates as just about every other team
    No we don't. Half the teams actually have 4/5 Rookie Ball teams(They would love 6 but VSL closed) while we have 3

    Difference is u can sign more guys(Minor League FA/College FA/HS guys later in draft/IFA) but u gotta pay for stuff which means more $$$
    Last edited by tjfla; 05-26-2019, 03:46 PM.

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    • We found something in harold ramirez. its a really nice bat that is definitely not a CF. hopefully brinson keeps mashing and he shows even more improvement in plate discipline in the next few weeks and we can get him up here and back in CF.

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      • Originally posted by fish16 View Post
        We found something in harold ramirez. its a really nice bat that is definitely not a CF. hopefully brinson keeps mashing and he shows even more improvement in plate discipline in the next few weeks and we can get him up here and back in CF.
        Might not look great in CF but nice to see he could play there if needed. Smaller OF he would be fine in CF

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        • I dont get what a guy like Rosell herrera has to do to be discarded? The guy fucking sucks and he's always fucking sucked. mlb teams fall in love with these shit players and they stick around for far longer than they should and it makes 0 sense.

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          Also, get Chen the fuck off the team. bite the money. you're paying the money regardless, get the worthless arm off the fucking team already. enough is enough. he isnt a fucking rule 5 pick that youre stashing on a roster to waste a roster spot in order to get his future in a few years. He's a worthless shitty pitcher just taking up space in the clubhouse.

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          • The Chen problem is more gross mismanagement

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            • Originally posted by fish16 View Post
              I dont get what a guy like Rosell herrera has to do to be discarded? The guy fucking sucks and he's always fucking sucked. mlb teams fall in love with these shit players and they stick around for far longer than they should and it makes 0 sense.

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              Also, get Chen the fuck off the team. bite the money. you're paying the money regardless, get the worthless arm off the fucking team already. enough is enough. he isnt a fucking rule 5 pick that youre stashing on a roster to waste a roster spot in order to get his future in a few years. He's a worthless shitty pitcher just taking up space in the clubhouse.
              About 38 million reasons. For the 1000th time they do NOT care about 2019. No reason to eat 38 million when u wanna suck. Ferrell comes up and u send Kinley down. When Fernandez needs to come up Romo will likely be traded by then

              They want a Top 3 pick next year so they dont care if Chen sucks or looks good. Same with guys like Herrera Berti Galloway

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              • Originally posted by tjfla View Post
                About 38 million reasons. For the 1000th time they do NOT care about 2019. No reason to eat 38 million when u wanna suck
                I’m not buying it. A Front Office that wants to suck doesn’t allow their team to win 6 games in a row.

                They want to win.

                The ONLY reason Chen is on the team is because of how much he is being paid.

                The team is better without him (they probably win yesterday if Chen isn’t a Marlin and he’s probably cost them 3 wins this year).

                You’re wrong.

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                • Originally posted by Namaste View Post
                  I’m not buying it. A Front Office that wants to suck doesn’t allow their team to win 6 games in a row.

                  They want to win.

                  The ONLY reason Chen is on the team is because of how much he is being paid.


                  The team is better without him (they probably win yesterday if Chen isn’t a Marlin and he’s probably cost them 3 wins this year).

                  You’re wrong.
                  Thats what I am saying!! If he wasn't owed 38 million he would be gone. The team is much better without Chen,Prado,Grandy but CHen is expensive and other 2 they are trying to build value to trade

                  I am also saying they dont care about 2019 which is why they keep throwing Chen. They wanna win 63 games but if they get the #1 Pick they would be jumping for joy. They want Torkelson or another big bat next year not to be #4 or later

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                  • Who cares how much money Chen makes if it would literally take a miracle for another team to pay even $2 million to take him off our hands before his contract expires? We're going to pay him the entirety of the contract either way. He's just taking up a spot.

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                    • Originally posted by ¿NICK? View Post
                      Who cares how much money Chen makes if it would literally take a miracle for another team to pay even $2 million to take him off our hands before his contract expires? We're going to pay him the entirety of the contract either way. He's just taking up a spot.
                      Ya eat the 38 million left to win 65 games instead of 63 games makes sense. Plus go from #1 Pick to #3

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                      • Originally posted by tjfla View Post
                        Ya eat the 38 million left to win 65 games instead of 63 games makes sense. Plus go from #1 Pick to #3
                        You don’t understand the concept of a sunk cost and you severely overestimate the difference that it would make whether Chen is here or not on our record. We never pitch him, he’s a waste of space, him on the team or not is not making any difference in our win loss record. All you’re doing is wasting a roster spot for two fucking years on a piece of shit pitcher when you could be evaluating more young pitchers who aren’t terrible and who could be a part of your future. Keeping Chen on the roster solely for monetary reasons is the biggest loser franchise move we could make

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                        • Originally posted by fish16 View Post
                          You don’t understand the concept of a sunk cost and you severely overestimate the difference that it would make whether Chen is here or not on our record. We never pitch him, he’s a waste of space, him on the team or not is not making any difference in our win loss record. All you’re doing is wasting a roster spot for two fucking years on a piece of shit pitcher when you could be evaluating more young pitchers who aren’t terrible and who could be a part of your future. Keeping Chen on the roster solely for monetary reasons is the biggest loser franchise move we could make
                          I understand but what I am saying is reasons why he is still here

                          #1 He costs 38 million and they don't care about 2019
                          #2 If they keep him and pitch him they probably lose more which they are fine with. What young pitcher? They would rather have Elieser and Gallen getting 7 innings in AAA then 3 innings in a blowout once in a while

                          If I was Miami I would have DFA him in April and ate the 42 million


                          Its like Dean in AAA and Berti/Herrera in MLB. They want Dean to get regular Ab's and learn 1B so they kept him down. If he was in the majors he would have gotten Ab's 2 or 3 times a week

                          August 1 u will start seeing the young guys up and then everyone can cry about how they should be in AAA still
                          Last edited by tjfla; 05-27-2019, 08:52 AM.

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                          • Originally posted by tjfla View Post
                            I understand but what I am saying is reasons why he is still here

                            #1 He costs 38 million and they don't care about 2019
                            #2 If they keep him and pitch him they probably lose more which they are fine with. What young pitcher? They would rather have Elieser and Gallen getting 7 innings in AAA then 3 innings in a blowout once in a while

                            If I was Miami I would have DFA him in April and ate the 42 million


                            Its like Dean in AAA and Berti/Herrera in MLB. They want Dean to get regular Ab's and learn 1B so they kept him down. If he was in the majors he would have gotten Ab's 2 or 3 times a week

                            August 1 u will start seeing the young guys up and then everyone can cry about how they should be in AAA still
                            Your snarkiness thinking you are breaking news all the time with the very obvious view[oint of the front office is beyond annoying. We get it, you know the janitor. You're not impressing anyone by acting like you have the pulse of the front office by spewing obvious points we all already are aware of. No one is asking for reasons why he is still here, they are saying the fact that he is still here regardless of the reasoning is absolutely idiotic at this point and a waste of roster space.

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                            Not to mention what a terrible message it sends to the rest of the clubhouse on a daily basis when they see this waste of roster space coming in he clubhouse every day when the entire team knows he has no business being in a major league roster

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                            Btw TJFLA the janitor thing was a joke for old times sake, before that gets blown out of proportion.

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                            • Elieser hernandez up and Tyler Kinley down. Good to see, I doubt Elieser's numbers will be anything close to his AAA numbers out of the pen, but if he becomes any kind of piece on the team for the next few years thats a big win considering he was a rule 5 guy. Front office has done a good job with minor additions like rule 5 guys and other minor trades.

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                              • I doubt Elieser's numbers will be anything close to his AAA numbers out of the pen

                                Given that Hernandez has a 1.07 ERA in New Orleans, yes, it's safe to assume that he will not have similar success in Miami. However, he is likely to be an upgrade in either the pen or rotation.

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