6/8/15 Marlins @ Toronto 7:07 PM

[Jay]

I agree, but I don't fault them for calling up a pitcher instead of a hitter with Morris hitting the DL. Assuming Conley will be optioned and a hitter called up after.

I also do agree that I don't see the point in yet another long reliever. Free Wittgren!

I'm more annoyed about Wittgren not being called up over Flores or Conley at this point.

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Thank God there's a hockey game tonight

Also the draft.

[Erick]

Rienzo should've started this game. Or anybody who's right-handed.

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Or maybe it doesn't matter.

[AdamRavs]

I hate our rotation. Cosart and Latos need to come back. Well Latos is he isnt ass Latos

[Nick]

Brad Hand should've been released years ago.

[Jay]

Hand has a 2.56 FIP with today's disaster. He's the worst pitcher ever guys.

[Nick]

agreed.

[el nino]

Hand has a 2.56 FIP with today's disaster. He's the worst pitcher ever guys.

That line between looking at numbers and watching games. You are on the wrong side of it

[Nick]

I have no problem with throwing out FIP, I just have a problem with people who constantly go to the same stat over and over and act like it's the be all end all. FIP is a good stat, but each stat is a tool, no stat is all encompassing, even if a stat like WAR tries to be, and possibly is more than any stat that they've come up with yet, but you have to look at them all to make a complete evaluation of a player, IMO. Fielding Independent Pitching, totally get it, great stat. Unfortunately pitching isn't fielding independent.

[Erick]

Statistically speaking, why not start Rienzo tonight? Both are mediocre, but Toronto kills LHP. Tough to blame Hand since he wasn't put in position to succeed. Not that I like him, but this is a terrible matchup for a guy like him.

With our rotation sucking so much, why not have some more bullpen games?

[Jay]

I have no problem with throwing out FIP, I just have a problem with people who constantly go to the same stat over and over and act like it's the be all end all. FIP is a good stat, but each stat is a tool, no stat is all encompassing, even if a stat like WAR tries to be, and possibly is more than any stat that they've come up with yet, but you have to look at them all to make a complete evaluation of a player, IMO. Fielding Independent Pitching, totally get it, great stat. Unfortunately pitching isn't fielding independent.

It's people judge him on a few awful appearances where he gave up a ton of runs in an inning. He was not good for a few innings but has been a solid arm for the year.

[el nino]

It's people judge him on a few awful appearances where he gave up a ton of runs in an inning. He was not good for a few innings but has been a solid arm for the year.

Idk about everyone else, but I judge him on how useless he's been in his career with the Marlins

[Erick]

Idk about everyone else, but I judge him on how useless he's been in his career with the Marlins

He's had a good career if you only count his good innings.

[Jay]

Idk about everyone else, but I judge him on how useless he's been in his career with the Marlins

Well you can say that for almost every relief pitcher then.

For a reliever making the minimum he's pretty valuable considering he could spot start, long relief or be a lefty specialist.

[Erick]

Bour is fat and no longer raking.

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And Yelich continues to stink.

[Namaste]

This team has won 3 series in a row.

It's like a fucking funeral in this game thread, guys.

This game was over before it started.

On to tomorrow's game.

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Ha Flores just plugged Joey Bats. He was NOT happy.