Passan: Marlins Close to Finalizing Deal to Send Romo to Twins

[Lee Stone]

Cooper is going to LF I guess?

That can never happen ... it just can't. Cooper looks lost out there.

I'm fine with the trade. Diaz has been vastly more productive than any other Marlin minor leaguer at Jax or Jupiter.

[tjfla]

Agree completely. He was Rule V eligible and no one took him. Says a lot.

Maybe this is a launch angle success story?

Heyman twitter he has "stellar D." I like that.

Had broken thumb LY and this year is healthy. 13 HR in FSL and is 22 still

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Cooper is going to LF I guess?

That can never happen ... it just can't. Cooper looks lost out there.

I'm fine with the trade. Diaz has been vastly more productive than any other Marlin minor leaguer at Jax or Jupiter.

Cooper at 1B/RF with BA back to 3B. Diaz has to be on the 40 Man in 2020 so if they need a LHB next year he will get the call

[Namaste]

I feel like Cooper would play LF similarly to Austin Dean.

[tjfla]

Diaz wont be up till June/July and even then Cooper would be at 1B vs LHP

Miami isn't too worried about positions yet-they want power bats who can play the IF and got 1. They are looking for MIF now

[Lee Stone]

Here's a question to ponder: L Diaz is 10 months older than first round pick Bleday, so ... next season ... will Bleday deliver numbers equal to or better than Diaz delivers this year?

[fish16]

Here's a question to ponder: L Diaz is 10 months older than first round pick Bleday, so ... next season ... will Bleday deliver numbers equal to or better than Diaz delivers this year?

Ya he will. Your bleday criticism is the dumbest criticism you’ve had to date

[fish16]

diaz has me super excited from not only his stats and body type but just how much this trade indicates how much the marlins scouts have to love this kid.

I also love these kinds of trades at this point in the rebuild. We have a ton of pitching depth, flipping some of it for prospects that the scouts have identified that they love that fit huge long term holes in the organization shows this team is taking the next step in the rebuild from just accumulating talent to now flipping it to fill needs through hopefully good scouting.

I see this as our lineup come late 2020/start of 2021.

C- Alfaro
1b- Diaz
2b- Diaz
SS- Didi or whatever SS they sign or trade for
3b- Anderson
LF- Cooper
CF- Brinson/Harrison/VVM/ whoever ends up panning out of all of them
RF- Bleday

Plus another top 5 pick coming up the system from next years draft plus all the recent draftees from the last 2 years like Banfield, Osiris, Connor Scott, nunez, VM JR, Burdick, etc. That's looking really solid.

[fish16]

It's also pretty apparent that the marlins seem to be pretty good at identifying guys they like who teams view expendable due to upcoming 40 man issues and we continue to take advantage of it. Happened with Cooper, Caleb Smith, and Nick Anderson and now Lewin Diaz. We're not gonna have that opportunity to do so much longer due to our own 40 man issues in the coming years but its just so refreshing to see a front office with a coherent plan that they stick to.

[lou]

diaz has me super excited from not only his stats and body type but just how much this trade indicates how much the marlins scouts have to love this kid.

I also love these kinds of trades at this point in the rebuild. We have a ton of pitching depth, flipping some of it for prospects that the scouts have identified that they love that fit huge long term holes in the organization shows this team is taking the next step in the rebuild from just accumulating talent to now flipping it to fill needs through hopefully good scouting.

I see this as our lineup come late 2020/start of 2021.

C- Alfaro
1b- Diaz
2b- Diaz
SS- Didi or whatever SS they sign or trade for
3b- Anderson
LF- Cooper
CF- Brinson/Harrison/VVM/ whoever ends up panning out of all of them
RF- Bleday

Plus another top 5 pick coming up the system from next years draft plus all the recent draftees from the last 2 years like Banfield, Osiris, Connor Scott, nunez, VM JR, Burdick, etc. That's looking really solid.

They have a 40 man crunch next year, Bleday (and Cabrera, Rogers, Garrett, VVM) are extremely likely not going on. Summer 2021 after Super 2 deadline for all of them. The only exception is if they somehow can make the playoffs next year. I think we all agree there.

I'd just change that to Cooper-Monte-Brinson, and Ramirez and Sierra as the backups. And they definitely do need to find a Rojas replacement, and some other other guy who can play 2B/3B at a minimum (i.e., Tony Kemp).

They seem to really love L. Diaz. It makes me think the plan is to not sign other corner bats and if they make two big signings, it's Didi and a SP, and then they can decide if they trade a younger SP for another bat or just kick someone (Sandy) to the bullpen.

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To note: I do think for better or worse Brinson is getting another 300-500 PA and hope he is just a post-hype breakout. That include whatever he gets the remainder of this year. Same with Sierra, but he's easier to stash as the "26th man" in upcoming years.

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I'm still trading Castro, Walker, and whoever for lefty arms they can use now or next year too.

Maybe guys like Dugger and Mejia (i.e. 40 man protections) get shot out like Vallimont to clear some space.

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It's also pretty apparent that the marlins seem to be pretty good at identifying guys they like who teams view expendable due to upcoming 40 man issues and we continue to take advantage of it. Happened with Cooper, Caleb Smith, and Nick Anderson and now Lewin Diaz. We're not gonna have that opportunity to do so much longer due to our own 40 man issues in the coming years but its just so refreshing to see a front office with a coherent plan that they stick to.

Maybe let's see L. Diaz hit before lumping him in with those guys?

You could add Elisier to that too if we are being technical about this. He was a nice Rule V grab.

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I feel like Cooper would play LF similarly to Austin Dean.

He's been a slightly above average defender over 250 innings at the MLB level. He' s better at 1B in his first 450 innings for sure, but I would take a neutral Cooper in a corner if he's going to hit like this (obviously). Dean has been an exceptionally bad OF over 411 innings at the MLB level thus far. There's a difference here.

I think we have some SSS issues, but there is some real hope that Cooper is a neutral defender in LF at minimum. Cooper's defensive stats in the OF are 80% weighted to RF, so you'd presume LF he would be better too.

[Nick]

It's also pretty apparent that the marlins seem to be pretty good at identifying guys they like who teams view expendable due to upcoming 40 man issues and we continue to take advantage of it. Happened with Cooper, Caleb Smith, and Nick Anderson and now Lewin Diaz. We're not gonna have that opportunity to do so much longer due to our own 40 man issues in the coming years but its just so refreshing to see a front office with a coherent plan that they stick to.

You are just itching to pat this FO on the back. Like lou said, let's let Diaz get past AA before we declare this one a victory.

[fauowls44]

Now that Romo is gone, I kind of like Frisaro's suggestion of putting Richards in the closer role.

[fish16]

You are just itching to pat this FO on the back. Like lou said, let's let Diaz get past AA before we declare this one a victory.

im not itching to do shit, nor am i saying diaz is a sure fire big leaguer. Im applauding them for sticking to their plan and conducting this rebuild mostly the right way and for finally running this team like the small market team they are, which ive been saying for like 2 years now.

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ive been saying for 2+ years now the process of team building is the most important thing rather than the outcome of any individual move and that is why im applauding the front office, not because im blindly supporting them considering i criticize them all the time

[Nick]

The outcome is the most important thing. If Vallimont ends up having a better major league career than Diaz then they fucked up. All the things you're praising the Marlins FO for with Diaz, you could say the exact same thing for Minnesota with Vallimont.

[fish16]

The outcome is the most important thing. If Vallimont ends up having a better major league career than Diaz then they fucked up. All the things you're praising the Marlins FO for with Diaz, you could say the exact same thing for Minnesota with Vallimont.

the outcome is not the most important thing from the overall organizational standpoint. a few moves that are done with the wrong process but a good outcome is not gonna overcome a team who is consistently operating with a horrible decision making process. That's what the previous regime did. This move obviously is completely up in the air obviously, im just saying this team is operating in the way it should be and they will develop a winning team and sustainable organization building it the way they are going about doing it.

[Nick]

I'm just saying, I don't think this deal falls under the same category as the others you mentioned. Yes we traded for an under-the-radar up-and-coming prospect, but we also dealt and under-the-radar up-and-coming prospect in the same deal.