Marlins Trade Giancarlo Stanton to Yankees

[tjfla]

This feels as close to the worst as it can be (Stanton gone, team's farm system is still in the bottom 5 in the league, but hey we don't have to pay $300 million so YAAAAAY).

The team was gonna be bad with our without Stanton. But that farm system hasn't improved all that much. If you can't get better than this return then you really shouldn't be trading Stanton. This is a sad day for the franchise and that has been said before.

Ya we went from a 75 win team to a 65 win team with 300 million less to pay.

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After what they've done? The only guys they've traded are Phelps, Ramos, Dee, and Stanton. Phelps and Ramos they seem to have gotten good value/depth for, Dee has no value in this day and age of baseball especially given his contract and we still got good value, and Stanton had a NTC and a 300 million contract and already rejected better offers from 2 other teams.

It's been obvious all along the most value would come from Ozuna, Straily, Bour, Bearclaw, and maybe Realmuto and Yelich trades. We'll get 2 top 100 guys from STL for Ozuna. We have drastically improved this farm system since the trade deadline though.

This has always been a soon to be league worst team kind of rebuild. Just prepare yourself for that and know that the ownership finally has a plan to turn this into a sustainable winner and that the last 2 world series winners did this exact same thing. Doesnt guarantee success but this is the right thing to do and theyve gotten about the right kind of value for the players theyve given up thus far.

THE REIGNING NL MVP JUST GOT TRADED AND THE TEAM STILL HAS ONE OF THE WORST FARM SYSTEMS IN BASEBALL. HE IS ONLY 28 YEARS OLD AND IS JUST HITTING HIS PRIME.

I feel like some people here are just getting brainwashed by mediocrity at this point. Read that damn sentence above. The fact that the team is such bad negotiators that they couldn't turn that sentence above into anything productive in the near future is infuriating.

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This is weird considering you liked the idea of acquiring the Giants top 4 prospects. Our farm system would've sucked about the same with that deal too.

Expect those players would've contributed to the team next year and were actually legitimate prospects. Three guys from that deal would've been major leaguers next year, including a high upside starting pitcher AND we would've gotten that 18 year old (Ramos) with superstar upside given his superstar comparison was Carlos Correa.

These deals aren't even close to comparable.

[tjfla]

THE REIGNING NL MVP JUST GOT TRADED AND THE TEAM STILL HAS ONE OF THE WORST FARM SYSTEMS IN BASEBALL. HE IS ONLY 28 YEARS OLD AND IS JUST HITTING HIS PRIME.

I feel like some people here are just getting brainwashed by mediocrity at this point. Read that damn sentence above. The fact that the team is such bad negotiators that they couldn't turn that sentence above into anything productive in the near future is infuriating.

IF THE REIGNING NL MVP WASNT SO INTERESTED IN NY OR LA WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN A MUCH BETTER DEAL. SF and St Louis both offered and we accepted better deals. Stanton BLOCKED them both

But u are right we should have kept Gordon and Stanton and won 75 games again next year

[Namaste]

Thanks, Loria.

[fish16]

THE REIGNING NL MVP JUST GOT TRADED AND THE TEAM STILL HAS ONE OF THE WORST FARM SYSTEMS IN BASEBALL. HE IS ONLY 28 YEARS OLD AND IS JUST HITTING HIS PRIME.

I feel like some people here are just getting brainwashed by mediocrity at this point. Read that damn sentence above. The fact that the team is such bad negotiators that they couldn't turn that sentence above into anything productive in the near future is infuriating.

without context that means nothing. Stanton is the reigning nl mvp, yes, but he also had a full NTC and the biggest contract in sports history that takes him until he's like 40 years old. We also had 2 other better deals that we couldnt do because he wouldnt waive the NTC.

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IF THE REIGNING NL MVP WASNT SO INTERESTED IN NY OR LA WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN A MUCH BETTER DEAL. SF and St Louis both offered and we accepted better deals. Stanton BLOCKED them both

Oh hey look it's putting the blame back on Stanton again.

He had a no trade clause. Everybody and they're mother knew what Stanton wanted. Guess what? Stanton is still under contract and there shouldn't have been a rush to rid the contract. But they made it known they needed him gone at all cost. Stanton didn't kill the team's leverage, they did it to themselves.

[fish16]

Let's see what we get from the cards for Ozuna and then reassess from there.

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without context that means nothing. Stanton is the reigning nl mvp, yes, but he also had a full NTC and the biggest contract in sports history that takes him until he's like 40 years old. We also had 2 other better deals that we couldnt do because he wouldnt waive the NTC.

That contract is going to be surpassed by Trout and Harper and whoever else when they become free agents. Inflation in baseball is happening and it's obvious that deal isn't going to look so bad for another 4 or 5 years.

This is a bad deal and everybody here should feel bad.

[Erick]

Oh hey look it's putting the blame back on Stanton again.

He had a no trade clause. Everybody and they're mother knew what Stanton wanted. Guess what? Stanton is still under contract and there shouldn't have been a rush to rid the contract. But they made it known they needed him gone at all cost. Stanton didn't kill the team's leverage, they did it to themselves.

The team wanted to get payroll down to 85-90 million supposedly. They felt they couldn't do that without trading Stanton, and they're probably right about that.

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Let's see what we get from the cards for Ozuna and then reassess from there.

This deal and the Cardinals are separate things. I don't care if Ozuna nets us 5 top 100 prospects. This Yankees deal still sucks.

[fish16]

Oh hey look it's putting the blame back on Stanton again.

He had a no trade clause. Everybody and they're mother knew what Stanton wanted. Guess what? Stanton is still under contract and there shouldn't have been a rush to rid the contract. But they made it known they needed him gone at all cost. Stanton didn't kill the team's leverage, they did it to themselves.

Stanton is obviously partially to blame for the deal we ended up getting. He had every right to do what he did because he earned it and loria foolishly gave him the NTC, but he is obviously part of the reason for the return we got.

I would have been cool with keeping him, but this isnt a terrible deal and allows us to just move on and continue the rebuild. Plus Guzman might be our top prospect at this point.

Again, let's see wht we get from the cardinals for Ozuna next and then we can reassess the rebuild.

[Erick]

THE REIGNING NL MVP JUST GOT TRADED AND THE TEAM STILL HAS ONE OF THE WORST FARM SYSTEMS IN BASEBALL. HE IS ONLY 28 YEARS OLD AND IS JUST HITTING HIS PRIME.

I feel like some people here are just getting brainwashed by mediocrity at this point. Read that damn sentence above. The fact that the team is such bad negotiators that they couldn't turn that sentence above into anything productive in the near future is infuriating.

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Expect those players would've contributed to the team next year and were actually legitimate prospects. Three guys from that deal would've been major leaguers next year, including a high upside starting pitcher AND we would've gotten that 18 year old (Ramos) with superstar upside given his superstar comparison was Carlos Correa.

These deals aren't even close to comparable.

The Giants farm system sucks. Not sure what you saw in that package that was so great, and the Yankees also took on more money in this deal than the Giants would've absorbed.

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The team wanted to get payroll down to 85-90 million supposedly. They felt they couldn't do that without trading Stanton, and they're probably right about that.

Once again it is the team putting constraints on itself.

If you want to say this is Jeffrey Loria giving one last middle finger to the team he ran then that would be a correct answer. But saying this deal in terms of value and timing is correct would just be so far from it.

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The team wanted to get payroll down to 85-90 million supposedly. They felt they couldn't do that without trading Stanton, and they're probably right about that.

Once again it is the team putting constraints on itself.

If you want to say this is Jeffrey Loria giving one last middle finger to the team he ran then that would be a correct answer. But saying this deal in terms of value and timing is correct would just be so far from it.

[MiamiHomer]

without context that means nothing. Stanton is the reigning nl mvp, yes, but he also had a full NTC and the biggest contract in sports history that takes him until he's like 40 years old. We also had 2 other better deals that we couldnt do because he wouldnt waive the NTC.

I don't get how you give them a pass for basically calling out Stanton to approve a deal or we will leave you on the team with no one. They handled it HORRIBLE and gave up all leverage immediately. They fucked up royally.

[Erick]

This deal and the Cardinals are separate things. I don't care if Ozuna nets us 5 top 100 prospects. This Yankees deal still sucks.

Lol