Marlins Trade 2B Dee Gordon to Seattle Mariners

[rmc523]

So did we actually change owners?

[Ralph]

Yea can see Vogebach and them swapping Shaw for someone else in Giants deal.

[MiamiHomer]

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[rmc523]

Odds the return is something shitty like Max Povse straight up?

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good point, and if that's the case the return better be worth it

The "return" will be that they pay his contract and we get a bag of balls, just like a Loria deal.

[emkayseven]

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shocking - he's not bad. K's guys. Probably their best pitching prospect

[Ralph]

Wow he’s actually pretty nice.

[emkayseven]

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One scout on Neidert, who excelled in Class A Cal League last season before struggling at Double A: “Good arm. Low ceiling. No breaking ball.” Heading to #Marlins from #Mariners.

[MiamiHomer]

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[fish16]

Great deal. Mariners also picking up Dee's entire contract. Pitching, pitching, pitching.

[MiamiHomer]

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Mariners taking full Dee Gordon salary

[Ralph]

Robert Dugger. Like the name. Like the k’s.

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Chris Torres showed some power. I kinda really like this deal.

[fish16]

Chris torres looks like a young high upside player too for a SS. good deal all around to start the offseson.

[Ralph]

Yea I think the key to this deal for the Mariners was that 1 million extra for Otani. I think they pretty much are sure he’s gonna pick them.

[sports24/7]

From MLB.com's Top prospects list:

Scouting grades: Fastball: 55 | Curveball: 50 | Slider: 45 | Changeup: 60 | Control: 55 | Overall: 50
The signing of free agent Nelson Cruz cost the Mariners a first-round pick in 2015, but the team still managed to find a first-round talent in the second round in Neidert. He signed for $1.2 million as the No. 60 overall pick and then had an encouraging pro debut in the Rookie-level Arizona League. As a means of controlling his workload, the Mariners had Neidert begin 2016 in extended spring training before sending him to Class A Clinton in May. The right-hander excelled during his time in the Midwest League, showing improved velocity as well as his usual advanced feel for a deep arsenal, both of which helped him reach Double-A at age 20 in his second full season.

Neidert's fastball sits in the low-90s and peaks at 94 with good life, and he's already proved adept at commanding the pitch within the strike zone. The right-hander made big strides with his changeup in 2016, throwing it with better arm speed and generating more fading action, and scouts believe it will develop into a plus pitch. His curveball is currently ahead of his low-80s slider in terms of effectiveness and consistency, but he did show better feel for the latter last season. He's consistently around the zone and efficient with all of his pitches.

Neidert's high three-quarters arm slot allows him to create a good downhill angle to the plate, and he generates his velocity with athleticism and arm speed rather than effort. The undersized right-hander faces questions about his durability, but he has the arsenal and command profile to develop into a No. 3 started in the Major Leagues

Scouting grades: Hit: 50 | Power: 30 | Run: 60 | Arm: 60 | Field: 55 | Overall: 50
Torres reportedly had an agreement in place with the Yankees on a $2.1 million signing bonus well before the 2014 international period began, but the deal never came to fruition, which allowed the Mariners to land the then-17-year-old for $375,000. He made his pro debut the following year in the Dominican Summer League, where he drew raves for his play at shortstop, and then made his U.S. debut in 2016 with Seattle's Rookie-level Arizona League affiliate.

The switch-hitting Torres is more advanced from the left side of the plate, with good contact skills and the ability to drive the ball to the opposite field. He's a work in progress as a righty, however, and batted just .178/.245/.222 against southpaws in '16. While hitting for power will never be a part of his game, Torres' above-average speed should net him plenty of doubles and triples as well as stolen bases.

On the other side of the ball, Torres draws raves for his upside at shortstop, where he projects as a plus defender with plenty of range and arm strength for the position. He also receives high marks for his intensity and leadership, both on and off the field.

[fish16]

I wonder if the marlins getting Dee's entire deal to be absorbed by the mariners has any repercussions on the stanton package we take or if this means we'd be willing to eat more of his money for better prospects.