Offseason 2015-2016

[thatnewguy]

Yeah but it's basically season over regardless of whether you have Adam Conley or Kyle Loshe or Alfredo Simon making those starts. I would've loved for them to add Gallardo and have him at the 3 spot, but as far as I'm concerned the rotation would not greatly improve with the options that are available. If Jose and Chen can stay healthy, then good things can happen. It's about fucking time that things do after all.

[Namaste]

I really want them to take a shot with Lincecum. I think a healthy Lincecum could be surprisingly good.

[nny]

If I'm a GM, I don't think I sign Lincecum.

But as a fan, I hope we do. You can dream on him and plus who doesn't like Timmy?

[Madman81]

If I'm a GM, I don't think I sign Lincecum.

But as a fan, I hope we do. You can dream on him and plus who doesn't like Timmy?

i don't like him

[HUGG]

Figures

[thatnewguy]

Lincecum hasn't been good since 2012 and has had diminished stuff for years. Pass on him since he began to stink even when he was healthy.

[emkayseven]

The Miami Marlins have no idea how Barry Bonds will work out as their new hitting coach. But if Bonds can transfer even a smidgen of his greatness to a lineup starved for punch, it’ll be a plus.

“He’s one of the best hitters of all time,” Marlins outfielder Christian Yelich said. “You don’t want to say that he perfected the craft. But he came as close as you probably can to perfecting hitting. He’s got a ton of knowledge and it will be nice to learn from somebody like that.”

The Marlins didn’t make a single change during the offseason to a lineup that ranked next-to-last in runs scored in the National League last season, next-to-last in home runs, and last in walks.


But they’re counting on the influence of Bonds and new manager Don Mattingly to turn things around at the plate. Bonds is baseball’s all-time home run and walks leader, and Mattingly was an All-Star hitter in his playing prime.


That brand new coaching staff will get down to business Friday when pitchers and catchers report to spring training in Jupiter. Hitters are scheduled to show up next Tuesday for the first full-squad workout.


What impact Bonds, who has never coached before, will have is anyone’s guess.


“It’s hard to quantify,” said Michael Hill, Marlins president of baseball operations. “We’re talking about one of the greatest hitters of all time. He has an unbelievable baseball hitting mind. He sees stuff that ordinary hitters don’t see.”


Said reserve outfielder/infielder Derek Dietrich: “You can’t help but be excited, just to be able to talk to him and soak up the knowledge. As a left-handed power hitter, I couldn’t ask for any more, personally.”


Even Dee Gordon is excited, even though he knows Bonds probably won’t be able to help him hit for more power, or draw more walks.


Although Gordon won the batting title last season, he hit only four home runs — half of his career total in the majors.


“If you bring up Barry Bonds and you bring up Dee Gordon, that’s pretty much an oxymoron,” Gordon said, laughing.


But Gordon said he still think Bonds will bring improvement, and with Marlins slugger Giancarlo Stanton, in particular, due to their similarities as long-ball threats.


“I think for our best player, which is Giancarlo, he’s going to help him reach his full potential, if he hasn’t reached it already,” Gordon said. “But I think he can help him become an even better superstar and the pressures that come with it. To be honest, I’m not a superstar, and probably never will be. So I don’t have to handle those pressures that Giancarlo has to handle.”


Gordon said he has only set eyes on Bonds twice before, once a few years ago when he was with the Dodgers and at the 2004 All-Star Game in Houston when he shagged fly balls while Bonds was hitting during the Home Run Derby.

“I tried to rob his homer in the Home Run Derby,” said Gordon, who was a youngster at the time. “I tried. It didn’t work. He hit it too far and too high. It went a few rows back, but it felt close for a kid.”


Bonds won’t be swinging a bat for the Marlins.


But Yelich and others feel he can make a major difference in helping them improve as hitters, though not to his level.


“He can’t hit for any of us, obviously,” Yelich said. “And yet his talent is what it is. He’s going to help us with approach and pitcher tendencies, with his insight in the game, with situational hitting, stuff like that. Just to have him around will be cool, and I’m looking forward to getting to work with him.”

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/ml...#storylink=cpy

[lou]

You gotta figure the roster is gonna be something like:

Gordon, Prado, Yelich, Stanton, Bour, Ozuna, Realmuto, Hech, Rojas, Ichiro, Mathis, Dietrich, Johnson (13)

Fernandez, Chen, Cosart, Koehler, Conley/Nicolino, Phelps/Jackson, Breslow/Hand, Barraclough/Ellington, Dunn, Morris, Capps, Ramos (12 of those)

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I'm actually pretty ok with that roster. Doesn't feel like there's enough room to cram in another starter unless you're taking a flier on a guy like Cliff Lee. Health and consistency is the big thing, it's always the big thing, but I feel better about that roster than I did about the 2015 one tbh.

Phelps is guaranteed money through arbitration, he's a lock. The only change I would have there is Jackson/Barraclough/Ellington/Camp Competition for that last bullpen spot, with heavy deference to Jackson in April as the other guys have options. Everything else seems spot on. I guess Conley could be the 2nd lefty in the pen also if Nicolino wins the 5.

I'm pretty ok with it also, but they really need a # 2/3 SP in June if the team has a good first two months. It would be pretty nice to have Rodon and Alvarez right now.

[thatnewguy]

"The Marlins didn’t make a single change during the offseason to a lineup that ranked next-to-last in runs scored in the National League last season, next-to-last in home runs, and last in walks."

I hate when I read stuff like this because it's super misleading. The very nature of not having Ichiro, Cole Gillepsie, Miguel Rojas and the like getting serious playing time is a big change in and of itself. No need to change the lineup drastically because it's pretty obvious that when healthy it's a good and balanced attack.

[Namaste]

Lincecum hasn't been good since 2012 and has had diminished stuff for years. Pass on him since he began to stink even when he was healthy.

Lincecum 2013 FIP: 3.74
Wei Yin Chen's 2015 FIP: 4.16

[thatnewguy]

Lincecum 2012: 4.18, Chen 2012: 4.42
Lincecum 2013: 3.74, Chen 2013: 4.04
Lincecum 2014: 4.31, Chen 2014: 3.89
Lincecum 2015: 4.29, Chen 2015: 4.16

Factor in how Lincecum's style is predicated on the overwhelming stuff he no longer has, has been pitching in one of the most pitcher-friendly parks in baseball, been pitching in the NL, and has been trending higher and higher, I'll pass unless it was a league minimum, incentive-based contract.

[Namaste]

I was just being a turd and showing you that Lincecum has been good post-2012.

[Madman81]

not taking that write up overly seriously, but real question - doesn't fip include park factors?

[nny]

No it doesn't

[lou]

MLB Network's Jon Heyman reports that 20 teams have reached out to Tim Lincecum.
Heyman adds that the Padres, Marlins and Orioles have "big interest" in Lincecum. The Giants also have not ruled out bringing the right-hander back, but they want him as a reliever and Lincecum wants to and should get a chance to start. Heyman says that Lincecum will hold a showcase around March 1 and that those who have gotten an early look at him think he "looks very good." Lincecum is working his way back from September hip surgery.

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