Postgame: Marlins Lose to Bryce Harper 5-7

[Namaste]

Is there a way to find out Stantons OPS in close and late situations?

[Nick]

I want to know what his OPS would be if he never swung at a slider again.

[Mainge]

.488 OPS this year in 20 PA's.

.932 OPS last year.

.932 OPS for his career.

[Namaste]

Thanks, Mainge!

Yeah, that all sounds about right.

[emkayseven]

Marlins Lose to Bryce Harper 5-7

Awful.

[thatnewguy]

And he's going to keep getting that pitch in every single at-bat until he stops fucking swinging. It's literally the same sequence every time up. Fastball up and in to move him off the plate and then throw a slider a foot outside to get him chasing. It's awful and it's literally making Stanton play like he's Chris Carter or Mark Reynolds.

[Bobbob1313]

I feel like maybe complaining about his struggles with one kind of pitch is maybe a missing the forest for the trees kind of thing.

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Like, he's still got an .877 OPS. And a .371 wOBA. And a higher ISO than last season. He's struck out five more times this season than he would have based on last season's K% in the same number of plate appearances, which doesn't seem to me to be an issue. He's a freaking monster.

He's really, really wonderful. He also can't hit balls that are low and away, which has been true his entire career.

This seems like a weird day to overreact to this too, given the monster dong he hit. If he doesn't hit that, they don't even have a chance to win late.

[HUGG]

I think the point is imagine how good he'd be if he stopped swinging at that pitch he can't hit that isn't a strike.

We all know how good he is. This is a dumb thing to do.

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He's the best. He's our franchise player. And he's on a hall of fame trajectory.

Never stop improving, though. Ya know?

It's a perfectly reasonable criticism. No one is on here saying he sucks or we should trade him or some dumb shit.

[Bobbob1313]

Well, he was called "literally Mark Reynolds," so I'm not sure if it's reasonable.

Like, dude has one flaw in his game. At some point, doesn't it make more sense to judge a player on who he is, not some platonic ideal of what he could be?

Like, LeBron could be a better free-throw shooter, too.

[HUGG]

Sure. Probably not when they're 25 though.

If he's still swinging at that pitch in 2 years, I'll be sad about it.


But still happy he's on my team.

[Namaste]

It wasn't my intention to start Stanton bashing (in fact, I didn't even start this thread. MK7 deleted my original game thread and then he started a Post Game thread with a post I made in the game thread. Kinda weird.).

Anyway, I asked a well intentioned question. And Mainge answered it. And, it made a lot of sense. Stanton has been abysmal this season SO FAR close and late but the opposite of abysmal the previous two years.

[Nick]

Yeah like Hugg said let's not get this wrong, the day we signed Stanton to the extension is probably the happiest I've been as a Marlins fan outside the 2 World Series. Stanton is fantastic. It's just frustrating that he has such a seemingly fixable flaw to his game that gets exploited way too often.

[Namaste]

LATE NIGHT WITH THE FISH is back tonight.





We'll have 7 posts in the game thread.

[emkayseven]

It wasn't my intention to start Stanton bashing (in fact, I didn't even start this thread. MK7 deleted my original game thread and then he started a Post Game thread with a post I made in the game thread. Kinda weird.).

Anyway, I asked a well intentioned question. And Mainge answered it. And, it made a lot of sense. Stanton has been abysmal this season SO FAR close and late but the opposite of abysmal the previous two years.

I moved all post-game conversation to this thread. Your post was post-game.