2014-2015 Marlins Offseason Rumors

[Bobbob1313]

it's fucking ridiculous that payroll will only be in the $60 million range.
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At $60 million, they would be $17 million short of the Rays open day payroll a year ago.

[HUGG]

OR SLIGHTLY HIGHER

always so damn negative

[emkayseven]

yeah, it's insane to think that three years ago we were led to believe we could sustain a $100 million payroll consistently

[Bobbob1313]

28 teams had a payroll within $3m of $80m last season. They're gonna raise payroll to $67 million and talk about Loria's commitment to winning and investing in a winner.

[HUGG]

yeah, it's insane to think that three years ago we were led to believe we could sustain a $100 million payroll consistently

well we could

[emkayseven]

of course

but we wont

[marlinsfan24]

If the Marlins trade Cishek, they'll end up using his money to overpay someone that has a bunch of saves with poor peripherals.

[emkayseven]

I don't believe that. They've never overpaid for closers or relievers save for Heath Bell.

They'll use it on a "veteran off the bench" or a veteran who used to be good and fast but now isn't but still leads off anyway

[tjfla]

Frisaro with possible position changes

Yelich-OF to 1B No chance unless we get a big time OF
Koehler-SP to RP Probably 5th Starter but maybe swingman
Brantly-C to 1B/3B Says he has been practicing at both
Dietrich-2B to 1B/OF Can hit so? practicing at 1B/LF
Eovaldi- SP to RP No chance in hell!!!!!!! Eovaldi is not a closer or RP

[emkayseven]

lol brantly

he should be practicing at batboy

[lou]

Eovaldi, Cishek, Dunn, and declining Mathis clears $12+ easy. If payroll is even say $65, that is $15+ to spend in free agency.

Not Shields/etc., but if they get a veteran 3/4 SP for $10-12 a year (very doable. Brandon McCarthy probably won't get that and he was absolutely great in New York), a veteran's minimum backup catcher with an eye towards Realmuto up in July/August, and get some veteran infielder on a 1/$2-3 year deal to play anywhere, that is looking pretty good assuming two good young relatively play now infielders come back for Eovaldi and Cishek (or one really good one if traded in a package).

I don't think they necessarily "need" to spend $75 (i.e. paying someone $18+ a year), unless they get a top 5-6 free agent (Lester, Shields, Panda, Max, Hanley, and I guess Torress but I would pass because they all aren't going to be Abreu, Puig, and Cespedes...). There is really nothing else to spend real money on besides said 3/4 SP for 2-3 years.

I'm fine with $60+ regardless if that is a Loria determined cap given that signing one of those 6 is a longshot in the first place. This was always going to be a trade offseason. Trade some pitching for bats, and really trust Alvarez "some veteran SP," Cosart, Koehler, and Heaney/Hand to take the next step and turn into a good young rotation. Personally, I think it's a good gamble. Some nice pedigree with Cosart and Heaney projection wise, Alvarez seems to be turning into a good 2/awesome 3, and they can chug 350+ innings out of a veteran, koehler, and hand. Fernandez changes everything when back with this group.

What I'd really like to see is a payroll commitment moving forward (of course, just saying as compared to current bitching for 2015 payroll).

Yelich buyout for 7
Alvarez buyout for 5
Stanton buyout for 4-6 (anything he'll sign)

Until that pipe dream happens, can't get angry at 2015 payroll given the state of the team and free agency.
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Unless they completely miss on one of those 5-6 just because Loria is cheap. Then I'll be mad. But I don't think payroll will be the only issue keeping those guys away from as lucrative offers from better franchises.

[marlinsfan24]

I'd rather the team trade Eovaldi then move him to the pen.

[sports24/7]

Probably nothing we didn't already know, but:

@JimBowden_ESPN: Michael Hill just told us their goal is to get Giancarlo Stanton signed to a long term contract by the Winter Meetings…Sirius 209 XM 89

@JimBowden_ESPN: Michael Hill told us that they’d like to add one more big bat and a starting pitcher this off-season @MLBNetworkRadio #Marlins

[Miamarlin21]

Marlins exercise Jeff Mathis' $1.5 million option for 2015.

[emkayseven]

Glad Mathis will be back.

Not glad that they're still delusional about signing Stanton. Their confidence says to me that they have absolutely no idea what it's going to cost.