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Marlins Trade Morrison to Mariners for RHP Carter Capps
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Originally posted by Hugg View PostThey got a potential closer for Morrison. If he had another year like he did this season, they would have been non-tendering him in the fall. I feel like this is pretty good asset management.
I mean, if you think he's gonna bust out this season, then sure, I guess. Why risk it though?
I believe I would have rather rolled the dice on Lomo figuring it out than to artificially cap his upside by trading him for a reliever. Even if you think his chances of figuring it out are something like 5-10%, it's still something that I'd do.
Definitely give me Webb + Lomo, and Jones/Ruge in LF over Capp and Jones.
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Originally posted by sports24/7 View PostI don't know a ton about Capps, but he doesn't look overly impressive. If he ends up being a closer and LoMo continues to flame out then it's a good trade. Unfortunately it seems mid tier relief prospects like this are a coin flip. The Marlins have seen their share fail to impress. I'm not overly upset here, but if you weren't going to get much of a return for LoMo I just don't see why you don't hold onto him and hope he finally puts it together. It's not like he doesn't have the talent, the guy hit 23 HRs a couple years back. I wouldn't necessarily expect him to turn it around, but it's not impossible. Obviously that's what the Mariners are hoping for.
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Originally posted by Erick View PostIf Logan Morrison lives up to his potential in the future, he'll just become the next Garrett Jones. Those players just aren't worth much via trade. A "coin flip" reliever is just fine for him. He was given enough time to prove himself here and it didn't work out.
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Originally posted by Hugg View PostHe's not a mid-tier relief prospect. He's a top-tier relief prospect.
Morrison's a .235/.313/.402 in his last 1050 MLB PA. He's been bad now for way longer than he was good. Cut your losses before he becomes totally valueless.
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Originally posted by Mainge View Post
Definitely give me Webb + Lomo, and Jones/Ruge in LF over Capp and Jones.
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Mainge, I would absolutely take a high upside relief pitcher over a 10% chance LoMo "busts out" into a league average player.
He's not that valuable. Even if he did have a good year, he'd be in his 2nd arbitration year, 2 years from free agency, at a relatively easy position to fill. How much were we ever going to get for him anyway?
It's not like we'd sign him to a contract at any point.
Cut your losses now, get a valuable relief arm and move on. It's better than getting nothing in a year (which is easily the most likely scenario).
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Originally posted by Hugg View PostMainge, I would absolutely take a high upside relief pitcher over a 10% chance LoMo "busts out" into a league average player.
He's not that valuable. Even if he did have a good year, he'd be in his 2nd arbitration year, 2 years from free agency, at a relatively easy position to fill. How much were we ever going to get for him anyway?
It's not like we'd sign him to a contract at any point.
Cut your losses now, get a valuable relief arm and move on. It's better than getting nothing in a year (which is easily the most likely scenario).
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Yeah, I gave up on Morrison being a decent player anytime soon halfway through last season. He is a horrible fielder wherever you put him, and his plate discipline isn't nearly as good as it was when he was the 22nd ranked prospect in baseball (we all thought he would be Nick Johnson 2.0 at the very least).
I don't like trading position players who can contribute even a little on the field for relievers. We have a good deal of decent relievers in the minors/majors, and cheap non closer relievers are simple enough to find in free agency (hell, we just let a guy who's a similar style player in Capps go in Ryan Webb over a matter of $1-2 million).
I didn't expect much in a LoMo trade, but that's also the reason I didn't want to trade him. Stop trading our players when they're value hits at or near rock bottom. Inb4Cappshaspotential blah blah blah.
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Originally posted by dim View PostYeah, I gave up on Morrison being a decent player anytime soon halfway through last season. He is a horrible fielder wherever you put him, and his plate discipline isn't nearly as good as it was when he was the 22nd ranked prospect in baseball (we all thought he would be Nick Johnson 2.0 at the very least).
I don't like trading position players who can contribute even a little on the field for relievers. We have a good deal of decent relievers in the minors/majors, and cheap non closer relievers are simple enough to find in free agency (hell, we just let a guy who's a similar style player in Capps go in Ryan Webb over a matter of $1-2 million).
I didn't expect much in a LoMo trade, but that's also the reason I didn't want to trade him. Stop trading our players when they're value hits at or near rock bottom. Inb4Cappshaspotential blah blah blah.
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