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  • Originally posted by Erick View Post
    I'm not sure.
    I think you are. You're just thinging.
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    • 1.3 WAR in 2011, 1.6 in 2012. 0.1 in 2013. (B-R)
      0.5, 1.1, -0.6 Fangraphs

      His BABIP dropped from .281 to .231 in 2013 despite his LD% jumping from 17% to 21%, that's fun.

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      • Originally posted by Bobbob1313 View Post
        I think you are. You're just thinging.
        I am not. The guy has a career .258 on-base percentage. I also don't understand why him potentially being slightly better than Brantly matters in the grand scheme of things. Can't we get a catcher who's sort of good at least?

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        • Originally posted by Erick View Post
          Can't we get a catcher who's sort of good at least?
          No.

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          • We should try trading for one of the Reds catchers instead. Ryan Hanigan is probably available.

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            • Originally posted by Erick View Post
              Can't we get a catcher who's sort of good at least?
              Maybe? That they could possibly acquire a better (though as-of-yet-unnamed) catcher at some point in the undetermined future should stop them from buying low on a player who is currently an improvement on what the team has?
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              Originally posted by Erick View Post
              We should try trading for one of the Reds catchers instead. Ryan Hanigan is probably available.
              What is the point of trading for a 33-year-old?

              I cannot understand why you would be cool with trading something for an alright 33-year-old, but hate the idea of getting a 28-year-old with at least some track record of not being dreadful for free. I don't get it.
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              Originally posted by Erick View Post
              I am not.
              Also, I have to believe you are. There's no way you think he's not an upgrade over Rob Brantly, even with a low OBP.
              Last edited by Bobbob1313; 12-02-2013, 09:39 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged
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              • Originally posted by Erick View Post
                We should try trading for one of the Reds catchers instead. Ryan Hanigan is probably available.
                He hit .198/.306/.261 last season.



                Last 3 years

                Hanigan .251/.346/.323 .669 OPS
                Arencibia .214/.260/.410 .670 OPS

                And Hanigan is 5 and a half years older


                that seems weird Erick
                Last edited by HUGG; 12-02-2013, 09:45 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged

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                • On-base percentage is really important. It is not the only thing to take into account.
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                  • Hanigan is one of the best defensive catchers in the game, as well. And last year seems like an anomaly for him offensively.

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                    • He's 33 and is a free agent next season. What does trading for him accomplish?
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                      • Originally posted by Bobbob1313 View Post
                        He's 33 and is a free agent next season. What does trading for him accomplish?
                        The same thing trading for Arencibia accomplishes. Except their respective track records indicate that Hanigan is the better player.

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                        • @MikeBerardino: Major league official tells me #mntwins are no longer "in the mix" on Pierzynski. He is "not going there" :

                          http://t.co/RFa133IpMn
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                          Since we're talking about catchers.

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                          • Arencibia is five full years younger and two years further removed from free agency. Probably costs less too, both in terms of contract and trade.

                            Being a whole win better (maybe) next season is awesome though, I guess.
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                            • Originally posted by Bobbob1313 View Post
                              Arencibia is five full years younger and two years further removed from free agency. Probably costs less too, both in terms of contract and trade.

                              Being a whole win better (maybe) next season is awesome though, I guess.
                              I guess I just think that Arencibia is awful. The one thing he does well is hit for power and his power #'s probably wouldn't translate here as is the case most of the time.

                              Maybe we should just stay with Jeff Mathis.

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                              • He's a young-ish player who maybe turns into something down the road.

                                The Marlins' self-imposed budgetary limitations and philosophical opposition to spending on free agency means the team has to look for upside when possible.
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